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comment by cgod

My wife got the flu one year and it really fucked her up bad.

She spent 23 hours a day in bed for two weeks, over her 40th birthday and Christmas.

Do what you want but the flu can be pretty serious even for healthy people.

Does you kid getting the vaccine and not spreading it to someone who is immune compromised matter? That why my kid got the chicken pox vaccine.





mk  ·  18 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My daughter usually gets the flu vax. She doesn't get the covid ones. I'm far from anti-vax or even "vax skeptical". The HPV one is an awesome new addition. I've heard antidotes of people getting slammed by the flu with or without vaccination, but the plural of antidote isn't data. I don't group all vaccines together and say "all vaccines are good/bad", because I have enough experience with biology to know that they aren't all the same thing. I've done some deep dives into the flu vax and it's almost certainly good for a given elderly individual but population-wide, it can look kinda meh if you look at rates and incidence across countries: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0163508 For a long while it seemed to help in some countries, but not help at all or have the opposite effect in others. Maybe the trivalent vaccines are improving things across the board. I'm not anti-flu vax, I am just not sure it's all that important for my daughter.

Most people don't seem to know that the J&J covid vax used a viral envelope that much of the population has some immunogenicity against. Nor do they know that the J&J vax was limited to one dose, not because of its superior effectiveness, but because the first dose would raise their immunogenicity such that the second dose would be ineffective and a greater risk of adverse reaction. Also, they can no longer benefit from vaccines or gene therapies that use such an envelope. I think that was a mistake. I also think it's a mistake that new covid vaccines are encouraged for age groups without clinical data showing a benefit for that group, particularly for mRNA-based vaccines.

There's a lot of money to be made on an annual vaccination, and IMO the US doesn't have the best record when it comes to putting our collective health first when there's lots of money to be made. But that doesn't mean I agree with RFK or think Jenny McCarthy isn't an idiot.

NikolaiFyodorov  ·  11 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Most people don't seem to know that the J&J covid vax used a viral envelope that much of the population has some immunogenicity against. Nor do they know that the J&J vax was limited to one dose, not because of its superior effectiveness, but because the first dose would raise their immunogenicity such that the second dose would be ineffective and a greater risk of adverse reaction. Also, they can no longer benefit from vaccines or gene therapies that use such an envelope.

I did not know any of that. Thank you for sharing.

Ay-Nawn  ·  12 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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