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b_b  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Trevor Noah's Full Speech at 2022 White House Correspondents' Dinner

I think it's that he made one joke in one comedy special that the internet freaked out about so he decided to make everything that came after about the people freaking out and not the material itself. The fact that no one can see that is itself sort of amusing.

Ricky Gervais had a trans bit in his most recent special and the internet seemed to not notice, so there's been no need for him to address it, I guess. Or maybe it's because everyone already knows he's a nihilist and wouldn't care one way or the other was the critique is, whereas Chappelle very deliberately makes contrasts to the civil rights movement and the neo sexual revolutions, which I think rubs people the wrong way. Richard Pryor did the same thing back in the 70s...agreed to do a gay rights rally, then lambasted everyone for looking away during the Watts riots. It made the whites mad.

goobster  ·  81 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Gervais and Chappelle were saying different things.

Chappelle denies that transgender is a valid thing to be.

Gervais said he doesn't fucking care if you are trans or not.

One denied your existence, the other doesn't care. I think that's an important distinction.

(Of course, Gervais being a straight white middle aged man from a western country has the privilege of not having to care about others. Which is problematic, as well. But we know he knows that, too.)

b_b  ·  81 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Did you watch the Gervais special? He does several minutes on how he thinks it's fucked up that saying "women don't have penises" is controversial.

kleinbl00  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh, the Internet noticed Gervais. They were upset. The thing is, Gervais picks on everyone. Much like Trey Parker and Matt Stone attempt, no one is safe from Gervais' humor so you can't band up with other offended groups.

b_b  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didn't notice that the internet noticed, which says something, because I'm not on the internet other than here and major news sites. I sure as fuck noticed that the internet noticed Chappelle, because even the NYT has run a gajillion op-eds about what we should all think about it.

kleinbl00  ·  82 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's fair to say that the normies noticed the Internet noticing Chappelle because the people looking to dunk on Chappelle are better connected than the people looking to dunk on Gervais.

The NY Times can't concern-troll Gervais because he has targeted everyone. They can concern-troll the shit out of Chappelle because they get to do their performative "we're liberal trust us but because we love you we will only single out liberal targets as if we were conservatives."