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comment by tacocat
tacocat  ·  2433 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Divorce Lawyer: Facebook Is a Cheating Machine

1984 wasn't a fucking instruction manual!

I actually can imagine. I don't like it





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user-inactivated  ·  2432 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Huxley was a pessimist, Orwell was an optimist.

kleinbl00  ·  2433 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is basically setting up a repeat of the coup against Chiang Kai Shek.

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kleinbl00  ·  2432 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When you reward the city and punish the country you're basically asking for the country to rise up and smite you. Creating an underclass that has no handles into the society you're raising up is the fastest way to get an uprising.

I know you said "the minority are ostracized" but it never works out that way. There's always a small enough faction that's pushed hard enough that a large enough faction that's pushed a little signs on. Before too long the government has decamped to Formosa.

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tacocat  ·  2433 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree with you. It's like 1984 style information gathering had a child with Brave New World's indoctrination through pleasure. Worst of two scenarios that are sometimes seen as opposing.

I just said a thing that's popular and kinda a meme

colossal  ·  2433 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But for the pleasure indoctrination to be effective, you need the same kind of information gathering proposed by Orwell. So the existence of a Brave New World like subversion through the exploitation of human tendencies already presupposes you have a kind of Orwellian network in place.

tacocat  ·  2433 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No. You just need to be familiar with the stories. The people in Brave New World don't accept their reality bec they were born into it the way 1984 characters were. Blending the two is like marrying rape with fratricide. No one asked for it. No one likes it. Just listen to this because it's fucked up