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comment by extra_nos
extra_nos  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Zuckerberg Hits Users with the Hard Truth: You Agreed to This

I think many many people have understood the depth of Facebook's tracking for a long time now. The issue is that most people didn't care as long as it was all for the sake of ads and revenue. It turns out tracking can be much more sinister than that. Manipulation of elections is just the tip of the iceberg. When you know what activities/relationships impact a person you can make a psychological impact. The issue at hand is all about epistemology; Facebook can alter/pretend to be a source of authority based on beliefs you have expressed or people you follow. This is what happens when people are willing to abandon innate freedoms for convenience.

historyarch  ·  2010 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're right, people generally know their information is being downloaded, they just don't realize what it can be used for and they don't have a choice. These big companies have almost monopoly power so you either agree to let them use your data or you can't use their product. And they all collude so there is nowhere to go for the consumer.

I'm normally not a big fan of government intervention but it seems like there needs to be an update on the Sherman Anti-Trust Act and other such trust busting laws.

kleinbl00  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Another issue is that if your privacy is locked down, but you've got that one dumb friend, they've got your data anyway.

extra_nos  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That is a huge deal with the phone and text tracking. You can completely opt out and still have your data logged because all your friends have FB installed.

veen  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I honestly think Gmail is a bigger problem for exactly the same reason.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Problem is, there are many powerful players in the field.

Another problem is, I'd rather talk to people on the virtual street without feeling like I'm being watched.

I haven't lived through the Soviet Union, and I damn well would rather not.

extra_nos  ·  2016 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think we are on the same page here. I am no fan of being watched mainly because of how this might be used to criminalize and control people.