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veen  ·  325 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: November 29, 2017

I really, really hope you also know about Cyberpunk 2077?

CD Projekt Red (the guys behind The Witcher series, and probably the best game developers alive now) have not released anything besides that 4 year old trailer and that it's going to be an RPG, but they are most definitely still working on it. I am SO hyped for this game.

edit: Oh and this tidbit of info.

kleinbl00  ·  325 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Trailers are easy. gameplay is hard. Watching that was like observing the Stations of the Cross:

First we stand at the Shrine of Zhora.

Then we bow before the Ghost in the Shell Geisha.

We nod in passing to Molly from Neuromancer.

Then we prostrate ourselves before Judge Dredd.

It's what ultimately doomed cyberpunk - the early works were about the uneasy assimilation of technology by the fringe and what it would do to society. It became about the fashion; Outland is every bit the Western High Noon was, despite the fact that it's set on one of Saturn's moons.

There already is a cyberpunk video game. It's called Mirror's Edge. And just like the early cyberpunk, it was necessary to adapt to different mechanics in order to make the gameplay interesting. It's what ultimately doomed the Matrix series to the dustbin of history; they plumbed all the tropes of cyberpunk but wrapped them around a garden-variety messiah narrative in order to make it accessible to the general public but that easily-accessible messiah narrative is boring and the cyberpunk tropes are no longer fresh.

Roy Batty is a toddler now.

Isherwood  ·  324 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If the witcher series is any indication 2077 is going to be largely about the morality of the various shitty decisions you have to make in a world where cybernetics create inequity. I really like the development company, CDPR, and think they could do great things for the cyberpunk genre.

Mechanically, I liked Mirror's Edge - it used interesting mechanics that weren't all fighting. But as far as it's merit as a sci-fi story, I don't think it had much. I played ME1 in college a lot and couldn't even paint the story back in broad strokes today (time trials were fun though.)

But based on their past works, I think CDPR will avoid the pitfall. The witcher games were all about non-black and white moral decisions. It wasn't, "do you want to hug or punch this baby?" it was more, "do you want to save these children from getting eaten, or save that village from a wrathful spirit?"

I feel like they get story.

veen  ·  324 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I fully agree and for all we know it could be a total dud. But if any developer can pull it off it's CD Projekt Red. The whole reason The Witcher 3 is so great is because it perfectly blends an open world RPG and interesting combat with great storylines. And The Witcher's world, characters, stories and themes are faithfully adapted from a fantasy book series and expanded upon. If TW3 is anything to go by, this will be to Mirror's Edge what Mirror's Edge is to Superhot.