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Cumol  ·  115 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: November 22, 2017

A fun fact about "ecstasy" tablets. In recent years, specially in europe, ecstasy pills have contained pure MDMA. The times where they were cut is over because the production got much cheaper, drug checking is becoming mainstream and bad dealers are basically kicked out of the market by the consumers.

Another fun fact, MDMA got cheaper when a new synthesis was discovered that starts with PMK oil. PMK oil is rather easy to produce in masses and is not as heavily regulated as saffrole which had to be shipped from Cambodia to Europe for further processing. Now customs are ceasing huge containers coming from china filled with PMK landing in Europe... It is not helping as Europe is flooded with it.

Another fun fact, the major production of european MDMA moved from Belgium/Netherlands to Poland which also has lower labor costs further dropping the price. In some areas in poland you can get a pill of pure MDMA with 140mg inside for 1,50€. In Berlin a gram of MDMA goes for 30€.

goobster  ·  111 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Interesting! That's incredibly cheap. I've paid anywhere between $10-$20 per dose.

Then again, I haven't taken any in seven years, or so. It stopped working for me.

Cumol  ·  95 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I guess the “magic” was lost at some point? Seems to happen if people overdo it. Very typical for Berlin for example

goobster  ·  95 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, it literally just stopped having any effect on me. It's not like I ever took much - once every 6-9 months or so, for about 2 years - but at some point it just didn't do anything for me.

I tend to have an extremely high resistance to pretty much anything. Caffeine. Pain killers. Recreational drugs. And I don't take anything on a regular basis. I even have a fantastic collection of single malt scotch whiskys, and I will have maybe one or two drinks a week.

In fact, I wanted to get high the other day on cannabis. But it doesn't have much effect on me, usually. So we went to the cannabis store, talked to the pros there, and the woman gave me two different tinctures to try out. (I had previously tried the Legal Weed coffee drink, which has 40mg of CBD in it, and it had almost no effect on me.)

I finally found my sweet spot! 50mg of CBD. FIFTY milligrams!!

And it takes about 2 hours to take effect.

So yeah... I don't do any sort of drugs often because it simply isn't very predictable.

OftenBen  ·  95 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Minor pharmacology note, CBD is not psychoactive. If you had 50mg oral of the Delta-9 isomer of THC, you most certainly would have felt something much more profound.

goobster  ·  95 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Due to its lack of desirable effects on me, I have little to no knowledge of how cannabis, or any of its components or compounds, actually work. Or what they mean.

For example, I have no idea what the relationship of CBD to THC is, or even what they stand for.

I had to google the Legal Weed drink I had, because I knew it had "40 of something" in it, but didn't know the measurement used. (I think it is 40mg.)

So ... I know some of the words in your comment, but am not really equipped with the background info to understand how it applies to me... I feel kinda derpy right now, honestly! :-)

OftenBen  ·  95 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In very general terms:

CBD is a semi-legal anti-inflammatory, anticonvulsant, possibly tumor suppressing, pain reducing compound found in cannabis.

Delta-9 THC is a psychoactive compound found in cannabis, responsible for the high.

Both are found in the plant and breeds have been developed that contain high amounts of either or both kinds. CBD is semi legal, in that you can buy it, possess it, but the process of producing it involves growing cannabis which is still illegal for those of us living in the dark ages. Also, most CBD extract or tincture has some amount of THC present. Not enough to get a buzz, but enough to fail a drug test or catch a felony for possession.

goobster  ·  94 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That helps a lot. This makes conversations with my parents (CBD users) and my wife (THC user) make WAY more sense.

Yeah, I went to the pot shop to get high. Not to get healthy. So they provided me with the sativa tincture I needed to get my 50mg dose that finally had the desired effect.