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goobster  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: $13B fine to hide wrong-doing, turns out to be a deal

I guess the one thing that was a bit heartening was that Jamie Dimon himself called out these bad tranches of loans, and said they were bad business and something they shouldn't be doing.

I had expected that he was in on all of the nefariousness, if not an architect of it.

On my "How Human Is He?" scale, he has moved up from Sub-Human, to the equivalent "humanity" level of the left little toe of a small pond frog.





kleinbl00  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Jon Ronson does a great job about talking about the "inhumans" in The Psychopath Test. As it turns out, CEOs are much more likely to be sociopathic than run-of-the-mill humans.

Bear in mind that there's nothing in Jamie Dimon's job description that requires him to be human. If corporations are predators, than Jamie Dimon is the frontal lobe of a predator. More than that, shareholders don't reward humanity.

He ain't sayin' "we shouldn't be doing this business because it's destroying lives" he's sayin' "we shouldn't be doing this business because it will be expensive."

blackbootz  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    "we shouldn't be doing this business because it will be expensive."

And that's the purpose of regulation or socialization. Internalizing the externalities; hoisting on balance sheets the cost of psychopathy so it's a little less sexy. Too bad that, at the highest levels, that sort of regulation can only be retrospective and so requires enormous bad behavior to be spotted after the damage is done. And at the highest level, the damage is systemic :(

kleinbl00  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My reading over the summer has led me to conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that the core value of the Republican party is feudalism, and that it is only through the diligent and sacrificial efforts of Democrats that we haven't slid into de jure oligarchy.

de facto oligarchy? Yeah, we're there.

user-inactivated  ·  2418 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    My reading over the summer

I've got like 25 pages left on White Trash, and I was wondering: did the audiobook version handle the footnotes in any way? Because they're like the last quarter of the book.

kleinbl00  ·  2418 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Weren't even in there.

user-inactivated  ·  2418 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You didn't miss much, I was just curious.

goobster  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    "Bear in mind that there's nothing in Jamie Dimon's job description that requires him to be human..."

True, true. But if polluting companies were forced to pay for carbon offsets, and pay their employees a $15 minimum wage, and barred from doing business with dictatorships and countries who do not commit to the Paris Accord, and, and, and...

And basically, if companies were forced to pay the ACTUAL price of production for their goods, then the incentives to jack the system and offload the costs onto the consumer (or unsuspecting bond buyers), then Jamie Dimon would do what was RIGHT as well as what was GOOD for the business.

It's because businesses are rewarded for being shitty loophole-seekers, that people like Jamie Dimon leverage these loopholes.

I wonder, if a sociopath were running a business with the right incentives in the right places, I wonder what we'd get? Tesla? (j/k... I know you hate Tesla with the fury of a thousand suns...)

kleinbl00  ·  2419 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't hate Tesla, I think their cars are ugly and that touchscreens are the worst interface we've ever been saddled with. Teslas are exactly the cars someone who hated cars would come up with.