- I'm saying a policy being in the Constitution is not an acceptable defense for its continued enforcement.
Well, the warrant requirement is in the Constitution too. If that's not an "acceptable defense for its continued enforcement," what is, exactly?
- Except it is? He's not saying get rid of all the guns, right?
No, but what he is saying is that one right (guaranteed by the Second Amendment) is subject to having "gone to an ISIS website." I'm sure I've been to some shady websites during my time on the Internet, does that mean my Constitutional rights are less than yours?
- Well, the warrant requirement is in the Constitution too. If that's not an "acceptable defense for its continued enforcement," what is, exactly?
No, not like legal justification. The justification for it continuing to be law. Basically I'm saying don't take further amendment off the table.
- No, but what he is saying is that one right (guaranteed by the Second Amendment) is subject to having "gone to an ISIS website." I'm sure I've been to some shady websites during my time on the Internet, does that mean my Constitutional rights are less than yours?
That's beside the point. I'm just saying guns can be regulated, which is what Obama suggests. You said that wasn't what he said.
- Basically I'm saying don't take further amendment off the table.
That's fine, and that's how it should work. But in the meantime we can't pretend that it doesn't exist because we don't agree with it.
- I'm just saying guns can be regulated, which is what Obama suggests.
I was referring to his statements about the no-fly list versus gun purchasing.
- That's fine, and that's how it should work. But in the meantime we can't pretend that it doesn't exist because we don't agree with it.
But a regulation based on free speech and association. You know, the kind guaranteed in by the First Amendment?
I'm definitely not, and don't think we should (discount all regulation, that is). But all I was saying before was that the specific things Obama suggested were not what we should be looking at.