I wonder how the "anti-racists" here on Hubski are going to justify this.
There's nothing to justify cause it's still racism and it's still despicable. So I kind of figured you'd end up being a troll, which I have to admit I was a bit excited about at first, because who doesn't want a bit of troll drama in their life? It keeps things interesting and it allows people argue and vent their frustrations. I'm really disappointed in you though. You're very much a one trick pony and you're quickly losing any sense of subtlety in your trolliness. You might as well post a picture of Hitler with the caption "A man ahead of his time" or some such bullshit. At this rate, it's like you're using a sledgehammer when what you need was a simple socket wrench. In short, try harder or shut up. You're boring.I wonder how the "anti-racists" here on Hubski are going to justify this.
So are you the idiot who tagged my thread with #troll? You're obviously one of those close-minded idiots who thinks everyone that disagrees with them is a troll. Not only that, but you're so ignorant that you don't even know that you're supposed to ignore trolls, not argue with them in their own threads. In short, you're an idiot. Don't like my threads? Filter them. I'm not going to shut up because you can't deal with opinions that are different from yours.
I don't understand what you are trying to prove with this. Is this racist? Yup. Does this one instance prove that there is a systemic issue of racism plaguing white people? Nope. EDIT: Although my argument was more directed at the post being made rather than the content, but TheVenerableCain is 100% right that a lack of sympathy gets nothing done. I think it was terrible that this women had to endure this and furthermore had to explain to her children why this happened.
Alright, I'll be that guy: If this had happened to me, it would have been handled differently. One, because my vehicle is an extension of Castle Law in my state, I have the right to protect what's mine. And two, fuck the red light, if my car is being surrounded by an unruly mob that I feel wishes to harm myself or my loved ones, I'm running their asses over without even batting an eye. Sure, they will get ONE rev of the engine, but if they fail to move after that they're going to learn what pavement and rubber tastes like. Doesn't matter what race the mob might be, if you wish to do me harm, you should expect to be responded to with harm. Is it wrong? Maybe. But do I have just as much a right to exit the situation as this hypothetical mob has to entice said situation? Absolutely, and by any means necessary. I'll don my flameshield now.
Often times, in panic, the "fight or flight" response fails to register, often due to moral standings (but what if I go to jail for running someone over?) This is why I full endorse how the Russians do it: every single one of those fuckers has a dashcam in their vehicle, because if a cop comes knocking if you DO run over an unruly mob that is attempting to do you harm, you have video evidence proving your reason for escalating and exiting the situation.
I had something similar happen to me. I was once attacked by a man who started pushing me around and threatening to kill me right there and then on the sidewalk. Instead of running away or punching him, I kept asking him why he was so angry at me and telling him to stop. I have no idea why I reacted that way. Yeah, I heard about that. What does it say about Russian society though, when you have to take those precautions?This is why I full endorse how the Russians do it: every single one of those fuckers has a dashcam in their vehicle, because if a cop comes knocking if you DO run over an unruly mob that is attempting to do you harm, you have video evidence proving your reason for escalating and exiting the situation.
I swear dashcams are like mana from the justice gods. I've read so many instances of people being saved by dashcam footage when the other party is lying through their teeth. In your scenario it'd also save you from being charged with a hate crime for running them over. Win win.
You would've done a lot better without your personal comment on the article. It detracts from the story and puts the focus on you. That said, I'm quite appalled at the lack of sympathy for this woman from the people here. Seems to me that if you claim a desire for equality, you'd be disconcerted that a group of men assaulted a woman, caused her 3 year old to be cut by broken glass, and used racial slurs against her. Why the disparity in reactions?
I'm starting to get tired of the hypocrisy and double standards that permeate the discourse about race on Hubski, so I'm taking a bolder approach. Most of the people who claim to be for equality are actually anti-white racists, but they'll deny this, because by their own definition of racism, you can't be racist against white people. I want to expose their bigotry. "Why the disparity in reactions?" That's precisely the kind of question that I want people to ask themselves when they notice how differently black-on-white crimes are received compared to white-on-black.
Bad people doing bad things is... bad. Regardless of race. This was a bad thing and the people who did it should be punished. But I can't help but get the sense that you think this incident is indicative of some greater, terrible injustice. And the evidence doesn't support that.
I only speak for myself and I'm sure others see recent outrage differently. Police should be held to a higher standard than others, instead they are held to a lower standard. Police have killed minorities with relative impunity for as long as this nation has had police. There is a problem with the way police treat minorities, it's backed up statistically. I think the outrage is well deserved and way over due. It's a good cause for disparity of outrage. There are many instances of police treating White people in an underhanded and murderous manner, it's also a cause for outrage. If minorities were only treated as bad as whites are treated by the justice system it would go a long way toward establishing a more perfect union. Criminals should be treated as criminals, it doesn't really matter what their race or motivation is as far as the governmental response to their crime. People who hold positions of public trust should face civil rights charges when they single out people on the basis of their race. Any decent person should make racist face scorn and shame shame for their their disgusting positions. I don't think you are a racist, I think you are just a person who doesn't realize the privilege you experience and any wiff that your privileged might be impinge upon threatens you greatly. It's unfortunate because you don't even get to enjoy the privileges you receive, because you are so filled with suspicion and fear. It must suck to feel so threatened. I don't know if what I said makes me some kind of anti-white racist in your book but it's a position I'm more than willing to stand by.
How could anyone justify this? I'm against hate crimes, thought crime should be illegal in a country with freedom of speech, which should mean freedom of conscious. I don't think the prosecutors are done with these guys. I'm sure they will over charge them (assault, reckless endangerment, menacing, property damage, maybe a hate crime by the time they are through) and get them to roll over on their buddies. People who don't think Whites can be the victims of racism are foolish. I gave a guy a free half a drink one night when he spilled it after sitting on it for a half hour. He insisted that I didn't give him a full free drink because I was a racist. Proceeded to smash the bar up breaking about 60 glasses, throwing and missing with a few at me. Overturned tables wrecked some plants, etc.. It wasn't a blameless protest against the evils of racism, it was a childish attack on me and the guy I worked with. I'm sure the guy suffered all kinds of indignities because of our racist system but his behavior was inexcusable and straight racist. If this had happened to me I would have gunned it. I don't want to kill anyone, i don't even want to hurt anyone, but threaten the safety of my child and I'll do whatever it takes. Hope they receive an appropriate charge when all is said and done.