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cgod  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Pretender: Why 'I Can't Stand Dave Grohl' | BDCwire  ·  

Bother Robert Summerlin is preaching to the choir in my case. Listen up and let him pull the veil from your eyes. I've never been able to focus on more than 30 seconds of a boring ass Foo Fighters song. Groany ass unoriginal white boy music.

I can't understand some of the music you post Green. Pearl Jam is JUST FUCKING TERRIBLE. They can't hold a candle to the stuff you make yourself. The structures you use in your music have about 50 times more originality, your subject matter is way less indulgent and repetitive and I'd could listen to just about anybody more happily than what ever his names vocals (for real Brittney, Kati Perry, Yoko Ono, fucking anyone else please). Can they rip a rocking riff? Sure, so can many others and in a way that is intensely more alive. They are zombies for a certain rock feeling that was bequeathed by our forefathers. Kids want that classic rockin feeling but they don't want to listen to their parents shit so they glommed onto this dead ass simulacrum of real original rock and roll to try and match that feeling while being "original" (see manipulated).

Foo Fighters are just trying to ride the same Pearl Jam money train. Makes me sad to see guys like Mike Watt climb up on that pony and stop playing anything worth listening to again.

The minute he started talking about Buddy Guy it make me think of a vid I saw of him last week, Buddy is fucking alive in this shit.

Also made me think of Neil Young "Ohio". I'm not a big Neil Young fan, can't say Ohio is big up on my list of songs I want to hear but just chanced to hear and pick it apart the other day. Not a song I especially give a shit about but it's a great song, lyrically, structurally and giving that classic rock feeling. Song means something more than the White guy experience and kicks butt. Mostly it's not a murky pile of self indulgent, groany, unoriginal crap.

If Foo Fighters never wrote a song that could hold Ohio's jock strap I don't know about it.





thenewgreen  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the compliment, I hold your music taste in high regard and it heartens me to know that you have checked out some stuff Ive posted. As for Pearl Jam, there's a reason I haven't listened to an album of theirs that they've released past me being 22 years old. It's nostalgia for me. I really don't disagree with you and I'd be bummed out if I thought that you equated my music library with PJ. In the realm of my musical influences PJ is almost non existent. In the realm of the soundtrack to my youth, they're everywhere. As such, I'm able to be transported to a time and place that was special to me when I hear Ten, VS, Vitology and even Yield. Beyond that, I don't think I could name a song or an album.

But yeah, I tend to agree about them and the Foo Fighters. Not a lot of soul in there, even less in the FF.

I'm surprised that you're not a Neil Young fan. He has some really amazing music. Thanks for the links

user-inactivated  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

cgod thenewgreen

What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_%28soundtrack%29

Also, Pearl Jam kicks ass live, even 20 years after they stopped making good music.

thenewgreen  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also listened to the song cgod did. I actually enjoyed it, it's not fantastic, it's never going to be on a mix I make for someone (yeah, I still do that) but it's a fine song. If we are getting rid of artists that sing about "white guy problems" -whatever that is? I suspect there's a lot we will be throwing out.

Again, I'm not a huge fan, but I'm not a detractor either. PJ has a major place in my past. I'm not familiar with Eddie Vedder solo work, but he did do a song with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan a while back and when listening to it, all I could think was damn, this song is awesome I just wish it were only Nusrat.

cgod  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For the most part I'm over hearing white guys with guitars bitch about how troubled they are. There are so many things which I find immensely more stimulating and inspiring that I have no time for groany cliche. Occasionally a troubled white boy strums his way to my heart but It's less and less common every year.

thenewgreen  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorrow cares not of pigment and all pain is relative, but I suppose I get where you're coming from.

cgod  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not absolute but if I'm going to listen to a White guy with a guitar bitch about love I'd rather it be Hank Williams than Eddie Vedder.

cgod  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I just gave "Hard Sun" a try, it was the "hit" off that album.

It's a White guy problem song. The world is hard (he even thought about killing himself), he has a great girl that he keeps leaving but she always takes him back.

The guitar is lost somewhere between rock and country, if I were him I've pushed for a bit more country might have given this thing some soul. It's him singing alright, way toned down from PJ but it's his affectations, once again maybe he should have cut a little country.

Pretty sure that I'd have a bad time seeing them live. I've been won over by bands that I didn't like going into a live show so who really knows (the opposite is true as well). I'm sure that ticket prices for them would be high enough and their opening band would never be tempting enough for me to give a PJ show a shot.

user-inactivated  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I saw them at ACL or I certainly wouldn't have bothered. Hand it to Vedder -- that was the mud year (infamous), and he got right in it with us and slid around.

God I have never been that dirty.

Cumol  ·  3440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have to say the Ten is probably one of my most played albums. Tried listening to the other ones, didn't connect to them. I discovered Ten when I was a teen, 15 maybe? And it did hit a nerve. Still love listening to it :)

Into the wild was an amazing soundtrack. You should check it out...

As for Dave grohl, I didn't know he was in nirvana (oil and feather me...) but I also never had a foo fighters track on my lists. No idea why

cgod  ·  3441 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I own and listen to a few Neil Young records. I'm not a fan but really enjoy some of his work. I'd say I am a fan of CSYN, I can listen to just about anything they did and have a good time. There are Neil Young albums that I find unlistenable.

If I had to guess the single biggest influence in your music I'd guess the Beatles.