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_refugee_  ·  4072 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Cold Turkey Isn’t the Only Route

I agree, and that's why I find prescriptivist approaches like "You should only have 9 drinks a week" frustrating. I wasn't getting whitegirlwasted or shitfaced. I was at a bar hanging out with a ton of people. But if you simply count the number of drinks I had, ohmygod I've got a drinking problem. People seem to assume with drink counts that your drinking is compressed into a shorter period of time. I spent 12 hours at a bar once. God knows how many drinks I had that day, but I had the day off, showed up at noon, and just had a good time hanging out with a ton of people as they came and left. By the end of the night I got slurry but I maintained for a good long time first. By prescriptivist standards I probably had enough drinks for the whole month that day. Never supposed to have more than 3 drinks in one day? More than 3 drinks is "heavy drinking"? What if I have them, as illustrated, over so many hours I never even get drunk?

It reminds me of BMI.





kleinbl00  ·  4072 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's worth keeping in mind that Bill W's methodology predates Dale Carnegie's by two years. The psychology of AA is 80 years old this year.

_refugee_  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And yet I assume no move is being made to assess and potentially update it!

Did you read the article about MADD and how they're pushing for a 0.00 legal limit, basically because they need to justify their continued existence now that inebriated driving is regulated/policed and so on? I'll try to find it if you didn't.

In addition, I'll note that when I attempt to find out from a government institution how much I should drink a day, what comes up is the "National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism." Seems like an agency with a very clear agenda and bias to me. (The government says one drink a day, by the way. Clearly, the government does not believe in having any fun. Also, what, they don't want my taxes? C'moonnnnn.)

kleinbl00  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I know that their original membership is all gone and what's left is crusaders. But if you find that article, I'll read it.

_refugee_  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

See, I'm pretty sure it was on Reddit and my opinions were flavored by the comments. What I can find that seems about right is this but Reddit claims the link's never been submitted. This is clearly wrong because I was doing a site:reddit.com search on Google.

Radley Balko seems to be the loudest voice in this corner. I wish I could find something not by him, but it is what it is. I think the first article is the best if you don't want to waste your time.

b_b  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Reddit, who? On Hubski, though.

_refugee_  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Damn I done been found out but I don't know how I managed that. This must be what they mean about crappy search functions. (Or I had way too many tabs open and sourced improperly.)

kleinbl00  ·  4071 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, there's this.