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You know it's so amusing I want to laugh out loud. Here are two of the greatest, wisest, most experienced people on the planet, who for literally decades have proven themselves an absolute genius at politics and also damn hard work making real things for the best customers on earth, agreeing that it's the most important existential threat ever -- and you go and talk to Peter Singer instead... And despite everything Singer does to ignore you (and he does, by god) you have the definite sensation that he's putting you on, and there's a damn serious threat staring you straight in the face. Why don't you go to the source next time?