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user-inactivated  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    "Whats the sound of hand clapping?"

That's easy: either a crack, or a pop, depending on a handful of factors; you'll hear the difference when you encounter it.

Language isn't flawed as much as it is incomplete. There are words missing for things perfectly commonplace not because there can't be any (because language is somehow flawed and incapable of transmitting those) but because there's little use to them. Here's a good example: what do you call the two lines on your face that come down from your nose to the extremes of your lips?

It's not that there can't be a word - those lines happened to be meaningless to us, useless in daily life that we didn't bother to name them; when we have to, we call them long-hand "you know, those two lines that come down from nose to lips - yeah, those ones". Apparently, thinking of a name is more difficult or resource-inefficient in this situation. It's a fascinating condition that we've invented.

DrunkenFlutePlayer  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Here's a good example: what do you call the two lines on your face that come down from your nose to the extremes of your lips?

This would be true if only we were talking about knowing words themselves. The issue here is the definition and the inexplicable, not the word nor prevalency. We can point out those lines on your face because they are there, but this logic breaks down when talking about abstractions. Knowing what the two lines on your face are called and meeting head on with sudden short-term aphasia when trying to describe what "Art" or "God" is are two different scenarios and can't be compared.

user-inactivated  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, I was talking about knowing words in the quote. Often enough, we merely don't have the lexicon to describe those, and had we it, we'd describe it just fine.

However, I understand what you mean when you talk about what "Art" or "God" is, and I agree with you. Here, it's not what we lack the lexicon - it's that we lack the understanding of the idea, which is why it's impossible to describe.

Yet... we understand it, at the same time, do we not? We can grasp that this is art and this isn't in a manner that's inaccessible to us yet working all the time. We understand art, but don't know it. Which means, to me, that there's some sort of idea of art in the background - subconsciousness, if you will - and with right words and ideas, we can probably access it - or, at least, move ourselves closer to understanding it. This is what fascinates me about it.

DrunkenFlutePlayer  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Cool, so we agree. Lol

What about this

Trying to define f(yourself) is like trying to inexplicablefeelingbutimplicit(bite your own teeth)

user-inactivated  ·  3355 days ago  ·  link  ·  

...have you been playing again?