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aidrocsid  ·  3147 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Tumblr vs. Hubski

Well, feminism is about gender equality from a very specific perspective on society, namely one that assumes the existence of patriarchy. You don't need to demonize feminism as inherently anti-male to disagree with that concept and thus disagree with feminism's focus or some of the contemporary rhetoric that seems to accompany it. Likewise you don't need to worry about things like 'cultural appropriation' to be anti-racist.

It's all well and good if you disagree with people's opinions on whatever, but it's disingenuous to decide that because someone thinks something you don't feel is very liberal they're suddenly a secret conservative even though they're life-long democrats who've always supported liberal causes.

You may remember that back in the 90s it was liberals who were defending art and media that was under fire from religious conservatives. That the same sort of hypercritical attitude is coming from left-wing authoritarians rather than right-wing authoritarians doesn't suddenly push those who oppose it to the right.

Again, the question here is how much evidence exists that reddit is leaning to the right. Pointing out redditors who oppose authoritarian positions isn't the same as pointing out conservatives.





pyrrhonic  ·  3147 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    feminism is about gender equality from a very specific perspective on society, namely one that assumes the existence of patriarchy.

The concept of patriarchy arose within a certain branch of feminism, and tho it's permeated it's not a fundamental concept to feminism per se.

    it's disingenuous to decide that because someone thinks something you don't feel is very liberal they're suddenly a secret conservative even though they're life-long democrats who've always supported liberal causes.

Well, to characterize anyone as liberal, conservative, or whatever is necessarily going to be a generalization. Capitalist libertarians are hard for so many people to grasp because they tend to be "liberal" on social issues and "conservative" on economic issues. Hence, it's useful to have a seperate term to describe them, because there are so many people that can be characterized that way. Maybe what we need is a new term to for people who tend towards what's usually considered to be liberal positions, except on identity issues.

aidrocsid  ·  3146 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure, but that said, when we have surveys of reddit saying that it's mostly liberal it doesn't make sense to say it's mostly conservative because of the impression you get based on select issues.

Herunar  ·  3146 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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