Oh, no. Don't get me wrong. The fact that new tools are being invented and implemented so swiftly show that the issue is indeed not being ignored. If I had to guess though, I don't think mk and co. have decided to implement them and then just leave it at that. I'm sure behind the scenes they're looking at the impact such tools are having not only on the situation, but on the site dynamics as well. I'm sure questions are being asked such as "How effective are they?" "Do they have unintended consequnces?" "Is a more direct action needed?" "Where are lines drawn?" On and on. I have to say, I find the staff of Hubski are currently in an unenviable position and I wish them all the best and offer what little support and encouragement I have to offer in the position I'm in as a casual user. The fact is though, the hate train has left the station and keeps chugging on. I feel like I've joined this site at an interesting time in its history.