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recursive-ity  ·  3423 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Floating Cities

I think you're right. What does Silicon Valley say? "Fail early, fail often, and fail forward." Rapid iteration is an intentional recipe, and feedback is built into the design. People freak out every time there's a bug in the latest iOS update, but if Apple waited until there were no bugs, it would take years for a release. WE help them figure out the best designs faster and faster.

The folks at Seasteading are calling themselves 'aquapreneurs.' I take this to mean they expect to fail sometimes, and to learn extremely valuable lessons each time they do. I'm sure they're open to critique; most thoughtful people I know are.

It's only the fate of the world at stake, so you know ... Early and often and forward.





Grendel  ·  3423 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That makes me wonder, can the aquapreneurs afford to fail? The kind of approach to failure you described works well in Silicon Valley, in a context where you're dealing with data and most of the time failure is a result of not living up to the promises you made or running out of money or not knowing your audience.

People report a bug in your update, you patch it. Nobody buys your app, oh well, better luck next time. The social and monetary price for failing is relatively low. This gives you the opportunity to not only learn from your mistakes, but also to make use of those lessons.

Now let's consider a hypothetical scenario where pirates attack your city, kill most of the men and kidnap all the women and children. Who's going to give you a second chance after that?

I hope I don't sound pessimistic. I just want to draw attention to the fact that the people who are trying to make seasteading a reality are going to have to deal with all the challenges involved in creating a modern city state, in addition to the purely technological and economic ones.

recursive-ity  ·  3423 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here's what Joe Quirk (the guy in the video, the author by the same name, and Seasteading's Director of Communications) told us when we talked to him about the project last week:

"I've come to define expert as anyone who can explain to me in great detail why some solution will never work 6 months before some group I never heard about makes the solution work. The network of minds working on a problem is far better at finding solutions than one mind researching the problem."

Please don't think I'm being cheeky with this reply. Not at all. I believe your responses are smart and ...only natural. But Seasteading is putting in years of research and testing before its model hits the waves. There are no guarantees except one: not to try would be an utter waste of potential resources. Algae farms convert greenhouse gasses to food we can eat; food people can turn into their own farms & businesses. And that's just one aspect of what this project can do.

We need it. We can't afford to be overly cautious. Whatever the risks are; we have to find the solutions.