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comment by KaliYugaz
KaliYugaz  ·  3206 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: America's struggle

Really, this doesn't even merit a response. You're just saying "nuh-uh" without backing anything up. But whatever:

    You're asking a vast group of individuals to feel guilty about bad things some of their ancestors did a long time ago.

No I'm not. It's likely you don't understand what guilt means, and how it is distinct from sympathy.

    We do sympathize the shit out of them. That's exactly why White Guilt is even a thing.

Suspicions confirmed.

Guilt implies that you did something wrong, and deserve to be punished. The vast majority of white people today never did anything wrong, so they shouldn't be supporting the cause of racial justice out of guilt. They should be supporting the cause out of universal moral duty, because the current configuration of our society is unfair and immoral.

    You can't detach "the system" from the individuals. There is no systemic racism without individual racism, and since individual racism is not tolerated at all, there is no systemic racism either.

You're saying, then, that it's not possible for everyone within a system to act with particular intentions, and yet yield a result that they did not intend or desire at all due to the way the incentive structure is configured? I hope you have proof of this claim, because the field of game theory would be revolutionized.





shiranaihito  ·  3206 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Really, this doesn't even merit a response. You're just saying "nuh-uh" without backing anything up. But whatever

You're just being dishonest. Without backing anything up? Somehow you conveniently ignored Jamie Foxx.