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user-inactivated  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: ​Your Porn Is Watching You

Well, turn and turn about.

Now I will read this.

EDIT: looks like NoScript saves me again! No one tell me if I'm wrong.





rob05c  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    NoScript saves me again! No one tell me if I'm wrong.

Ok.

user-inactivated  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, now, it takes care of Google Analytics at the very least.

rob05c  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, shit.

insomniasexx  ·  3543 days ago  ·  link  ·  

100% of the sites I build use Google Analytics and/or Piwik and/or other marketing automation platforms to gather data. These are all served via JS with a <noscript> fallback tag with an image. Yes, even Hubski (cmd+u, cmd+f, noscript) . It's standard operating procedure. Sorry. Note: we have our piwik gather very little data about you guys. We mostly like seeing where Hubski is being posted around the internet as well as how many users / pageviews we have in day / week / month / year. You can read more about what we do and don't do here.

I refuse to implement ones that share into a larger database even though I have been forced to take 3 sales calls in the last month about these "groundbreaking" technologies that allow me to get all of your information whenever you visit my site.

FYI, the absolute worst thing you can do is login via Facebook/Twitter/Google. A majority of the sales calls revolve around logging in with those services because (1) it requires very little effort on your part and (2) the amount of data I can get is outstanding. I can offer you a free dinner and in return literally get ALL of your information and your friends information. This then feeds into a database which is shared with other customers of the service. I can then search, sort, filter, and drill down into things like location, age, users who have ever visited the national monument in DC, etc. I can click on those users and see what text went along with that trip to DC. It's terrifying. But it's valuable. With email open rates becoming lower and lower every day, being able to send YOU an email about a restaurant I know you've been to means more return on my investment, not to mention a nice promotion for the tech genius. You would not believe what privacy minded people tell themselves while implementing these services. They don't want to be tracked but oh boy do they want to know you.

user-inactivated  ·  3542 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm annoyed that NoScript isn't more up front about this. I had assumed I was safe because I always see Piwik and Google Analaytics pop up on the 'blocked' menu.

Oh well. Between the other three or four apps mentioned I guess I'm doing all right. It'll be time for a permanent VPN soon.

insomniasexx  ·  3542 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If it makes you feel any better, the information Google shares me with (the business owner) via Google Analytics is relatively little. Not even IP address. It's very hard to personally identify you, even though I can follow you individual (sort of) actions on my site. The bigger issue remains that Google is gathering all this information. While it may not be feasible for pornhub to store 3m terabyes of footprints, it is much more feasible for Google to do so. Plus algorithms and stuff.

This, coupled with whatever information they are low key tracking from Google Fonts and other hosted libraries like jquery, and their new web hosting and computing services, they have terrifying access to billions of websites. I try not to think about that fact. I mean. What percentage of sites today have a Google Analytics, Google Font, or Google Hosted Library? Even if you take out GA, 13 out of the 18 sites I've built in the last 12 months use one of those services. The other 5 don't only because they live on Android tablets and so everything is packaged. Why would Google create and host a fuckton of free fonts and libraries? I don't know, but I seriously doubt its out of the kindness of their heart.