Then let's settle on 'we' being 'people who are familiar with the right economic ideas'. Precisely. I can't envision a future scenario in which the minimum wage would be summarily abolished. I'm sure there is one, but it strikes me as outside the realm of foreseeable possibility. As for the latter, yes, that's what I meant. I understood the source I can't find to mean that the actual increase in unemployment would probably be less than 500k (though it certainly could be up to a million within the margin of error the CBO reported). By doesn't change the facts I meant: "the $10.10 number will still obviously hurt employment to some degree."Obviously this is important, unfortunately. Supporting minimum wage, like opposing immigration, is an easy win in the polls even if one knows that both positions are almost certainly harmful to one's constituents.