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JakobVirgil  ·  3954 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Google buys AI startup DeepMind

I am morally opposed to AI but I doubt anything will come of Deep Mind if I understand their project they are trying to teach skyscrapers to fly. By hiring Kurzweil, Google showed there were already going down the woo route to GAI and will be embarrassed eventually by it .

That is the thing I wanted to say when I read the article and the headline.

Your question is definitely more interesting. inevitable is not a word I would use but corporations are already more powerful than most countries and very powerful in the ones they are not. What is already present here is an antidemocratic selection of what projects human resources are spent on. That Deep Brain is the sort of stuff we are going to piss out future away on does not bode well.





user-inactivated  ·  3954 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I am morally opposed to AI
For the usual reasons, I suppose?

    By hiring Kurzweil, Google showed there were already going down the woo route to GAI and will be embarrassed eventually by it .

Yes yes but a little voice in my head keeps saying, it's Google.

    What is already present here is an antidemocratic selection of what projects human resources are spent on.

Very well put, though being of an anti-democratic disposition by nature I'm not sure what to make of it. But yes -- corporations decide where the resources go now, space, tech, North Dakotan oil, Bangladesh--

JakobVirgil  ·  3953 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What are the usual reasons? Mine aversion to Gai is the same as Mary Shelly's it is unfair to the monster

Are you against democracy with a little d as in egalitarianism or just against voting?

[Written on a phone]

user-inactivated  ·  3953 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unfriendly AI/kneejerk anti-transhumanism.

And, I guess you could say both, to an extent. Democrats, using the term literally, and poli-scis in general tend to worship democracy as an ideal rather than acknowledging it as a flawed answer to faulty human nature. Egalitarianism strikes me as slightly ridiculous, product of misguided need to "fix" society -- but at a macro level it's an idea that's done a lot of good things.

Voting is a crapshoot.

JakobVirgil  ·  3953 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No not at all my sympathies are with the monsters it is unfair to them to make them. There a Gnostic idea that God sinned by creating us. I think in a secular way that is what we would be doing.

I also thing that GAI would be as useful as a jetpack.

user-inactivated  ·  3953 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    No not at all my sympathies are with the monsters it is unfair to them to make them. There a Gnostic idea that God sinned by creating us. I think in a secular way that is what we would be doing.

Neat -- I read a lot of future-blog stuff, mostly over-optimistic silliness but occasionally interesting -- never seen this view particularly, or at least never seen it mentioned in a Gnostic context.

Certainly when we think of AI we think of benefit to us or detriment to us, not otherwise.