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bioemerl  ·  1952 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Global supermarkets selling shrimp peeled by slaves  ·  

In other news: The world continues to run on practices that the average person only finds negative due to the fact they are no longer exposed to them living in nice, comfy, cities where the most horrible thing they deal with is a line at the gas station.

If the average person knew about the slavery used to make so many of our products, the conditions the people who work in the factories that make our stuff were held in, the sheer amount of environmental destruction we create, the way animals are treated in the "meat factories' we get our hamburgers from, they would be horrified.

However, if they were truly well informed, and knew the costs of not doing those things, it is likely the status quo will never change. Stuff like the above isn't done because people are evil, those things are done because they are the best way for things to happen, the actions of a thousand people in a thousand different situations, with a thousand different motives.

Some examples, of course, are crossing the line, such as literal slavery. However, things like bad conditions in developing nations, or chick grinders are things that truly do make the world better, not worse, in the long run, through being the only/best way to humanely kill thousands of baby chickens, or being the only way in which these developing nations will become developed.

Strangely like the story in "the giver". We put the moral burden, the pain, the guilt, on those who aren't us, so we can live a more happy and productive life.

bioemerl  ·  2446 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Want to have a real impact on climate change? Then become a vegetarian  ·  

This article is likely going to be bullshit.

    aising animals to eat produces more greenhouse gasses (via methane and nitrous oxide) than all of the carbon dioxide excreted by automobiles, boats, planes and trains in the world combined.

Yeah, and a hell of a lot more people are eating meat than driving cars or using planes.

The EPA reports about ~18% of emissions coming from agriculture in the US. The largest producer is, you guessed it, energy generation (I think, don't have the sources on hand).

You know where the emissions from cows comes from? The energy and fuels that are burned processing the feed, transporting the grains, etc. You know how best you are going to reduce emissions? The switch-over to electric automobiles and more efficient transportation such as trains. Cows farting isn't going to be the largest contributor, and importantly, all that methane is derived from carbon just taken from the air in the form of crops.

And some of those links have next to zero citations, only saying "According to our own calculations".

How about instead of pandering on about all these insane "drop everything you like" fixes that will never work, we actually put focus into electing people into office that will elect and support regulations, the passage of grants for green energy, and focus on the solutions that will actually fix global warming.

    Putting this off for another generation – the way our parents have – just isn’t feasible. Millennials have the opportunity to use our economic power and personal choices to effect real change, and it’s our responsibility to do so.

Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.

I am sick of the generation wars these news places seem to live pushing on us.

    Besides, if we don’t stop and reverse climate change, all we’ll have left to eat – if we’re lucky – is fish. Whoops – looks like we’re running out of fish, too.

If the earth heats up, we will all just die, along with the cows. Yep, totally true. It's not like humans adapt and move to counter things that are against us. Nope. All we are going to do in a disaster is freeze and ignore the issue.

This is what I hate about the global warming articles. Every one of them. Quit trying to scare everyone into acting for two weeks before they get bored and go back to their old lives. Real change comes from education and techniques that actually work, not this sort of crap.

This guy put it well

    You could have suggested reducing the amount of meat you eat, properly ensuring its source to examine its impact, and generally behaving in a more aware manner, but I guess you have an agenda to preach.