And by being on "hyper alert" you were less likely to be pulled over, right? My whole point is your penalty is being "judged pretty heavily." The penalties for drunk driving are life-destroying for entire families. The flippant answer is "yes, but the consequences of drunk driving are life-destroying for entire families" and I've seen that side of the coin too - we won't get into it. HOWEVER the number of drunk drivers facing life-destroying penalties far outnumber the number of families facing life-destroying penalties. Worse, we've created a system where the tiniest infraction is now judged by large swaths of society to be every bit the crime of mowing through a church full of nuns while swilling single malt. Sorry for swearing at you. I come here because I can hold the place to a higher standard than "most people" most of the time and it galls me when Hubski lets me down.