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Well, that's kinda what I was getting at, philosophically. Technically, the equations just are a way of describing the phenomena or principle. So in a way, Newtonian Physics are only the equations describing the principles. So sure, those principles existed before he described them in mathematical calculations. I dunno... I'm sitting in a long and boring conference call/training, and my mind is wandering off into the weeds... government contracting, my friends... my brains are leaking out my ears...