Not for individuals who can't be justifiably punished. As you can note from the tone of the people answering the questions, it's not about punishing things as if they are murder, it is about assuming it is akin to murder and declaring it wrong and necessary to discourage as much as is feasible. Putting incredibly desperate people in jail isn't feasible, and honestly I think that if we, as a society, shared the same empathy for these pregnant women as we do everyone else, a lot less people would be in jail for things in general. I have no trouble comprehending, I have trouble believing. People and their stories are not trustworthy, are subject to incredible amounts of bias, and should not be taken into account unless done through a formal system that attempts to minimize or eliminate those biases. And as for your report: Will the numbers be "low", maybe not. Will the numbers mean that nobody dies or gets hurt? No. But it will mean that the number of abortions will be lower with restrictions than without, and that society as a whole will have declared the action of getting an abortion something that is illegal and shouldn't be done. That's what it's about, not declaring no abortions at all. I didn't say there would be no black market, I didn't say nobody would have abortions, I am saying that fewer people will. Right now when you hear black market you think "war on drugs" level of black market where teenagers all over the place are smoking weed. I really doubt abortions would be anywhere near that common, especially combined with modern sexual education. No, I'm saying that as people are willing to do stupid and risky things for little reasons, they will be willing to do stupid and risky things for big reasons, of which you included in your paragraph. I'm not saying the motivations are the same, that people get abortion for a thrill? Why would I ever say that? You need to read and understand my broad point, not the little details.So if something were made illegal their just wouldn't be punishment ?
I know you like data and I know you have difficulty comphrending things without data so I get it.
you're trying to say you understand why people would do dangerous things like unsafe abortions because people put magnets under their skin