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bioemerl  ·  3089 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My thoughts on the Syrian refugee crisis

You are missing the point I made, I think.

    Except most people do not see morality like that, they see morality as a definite set of things that are good, things that we should discover that are in this set, and perform. They see immoral actions as things inside a different set of actions, and things we have to discover and not perform.

    "Do this because it is moral" is an argument that X falls into objective set Y, and as a result X should be done.

    I am arguing that no objective set Y exists, and as a result, that form of argument to morality, the argument for an idea of right and wrong, do not exist.

My argument, when I said right and wrong do not exist was to argue that there is no objective moral right or wrong that can be discovered.

    You say that there's no objective good yet you subscribe to the belief that your good is the good you ought to measure actions against.

My good is the good I ought to measure actions against. Yes. It is my opinions, my assumptions, that I live by.

That does not make such a thing an absolute good, a moral truth, or anything else of the sort. It does not imply the existence of, or the belief in such a thing.

What I describe are the actions of a selfish actor seeking to better their world. No true objective moral weight falls on my actions, just subjective ones placed there by those around me, or society.

    you have your justification for your belief.

If I did not have justification, would I have the belief? You seem to continue to imply that simply having beliefs, making decisions about actions, inherently implies that there is some form of morality in play. It turns morality into something that must exist in humans, as humans inherently make decisions, rationalize actions, and so on.

Imagine I am a worm. I decide to eat the dirt in front of me, or I do not decide to do so. If I decide to do so, because I am a worm and I like dirt, have I made a moral judgement? If so, what is the difference between a moral judgement, and any average judgement?

Imagine I am a human. I decide to participate in society, to not steal, and so on, because I am a human and I like doing those things. Am I making a moral judgement? If so, how is this action different than the above action?

What I am trying to do with my "moral" system is to explain the way people act, the rationalization between choices. Why the worm chooses to eat dirt, why the human chooses to eat meat. Not to say "there are things which we should and should not do".

    either way you're now doing ethical philosophy with the ethical position that you have taken.

Which does not imply the existence of some form of objective morality.