This is a fun read, in the sense that paradoxes and "if A then B then nonsense" ideas are fun (Maximin e.g.). Personally, I often find myself arguing from a utilitarian, rationalist point of view, but I actually dislike utilitarianism as anything but a pragmatic approach to solving certain problems. As a moral system, it doesn't scale in ways that apply to human nature, and it raises more questions than it answers. For the record, I enjoyed the reasoning present in 2.1.2. And I tend to find that common sense carves right through almost every moral conundrum there is. Badged because it's the sort of thing I want to be presented with on a Friday night. PS: wasoxygen I've been sending a lot of long crap at you lately, I feel. Instead of apologizing, I will forge boldly ahead.