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bioemerl  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Kanye West Say About the Black Experience in America

    Reddit has a literal "chimpire". But you're saying that:

Yeah, reddit also has a sub about pics of dead kids, beating women, and so on.

They are universally shunned, and nowhere in the regular part of the nation are such ideals common. Nobody considers them as good.

    How many times does a Black guy have to get gunned down by a cop on the street before we take a step back and think, "hmm, maybe the way we're treating these people is a little inhuman"?

When I hear about someone gunned down on the street, I think of things like the steriotypes that drive people to actions, I think of the complex interactions between police and the people they are over. I think of how and why these things happen, when everyone involved believes they are right.

I do not start yelling about how we treat black people as inhuman. Society doesn't do that, and it never will again in the future do so, barring the collapse of society.

    Where do you define being treated as human?

See: holocaust, slavery, and other situations. When people have all freedom taken from them and are treated as if nothing about them matters, as if every part of them is scum and nobody should give them any moral consideration.

That is what an animal is. What a non-human is. Cases such as how race is in modern society are not cases of treating anyone like an animal.

    is super obnoxious. How the fuck would you know, man? You've been Black for a day, I take it?

You share the same category of thought as the writer of this article. Attack the points, not the person. "You aren't black, you don't know" is not a valid argument, and never will be.

    I mean it's not my job to be some Black Experience preacher that needs to explain to White people all the time why they shouldn't treat Black people the way they do.

It's our jobs to take actions that lead to a better society. I don't give two fucks who you are, or what your race is.

    It's their job to accept who the hell I am, and the Black experience as a whole - whether it's the Kendrick experience, or the Drake one, or the Kanye one.

The Nazis didn't end the holocaust on their own. It's not anyone's job to prevent bad things from occurring in society. It's not anyone's job to protect the weak, or to go out to fight in wars to protect the nation you are in from external aggressors. It's not anyone's job to sacrifice what is theirs for the betterment of everyone.

You can't look at a pile of shit, stare at it very hard, and expect it to go away. The things I say in my post above are things I expect of everyone, in all their interactions, as a "this is who you should be". Not something I expect of black people, or of any single race.

People don't change without information, people don't change without someone pushing the right button that inspires it. People aren't going to change if you simply expect them to, or think they will out of human decency.

We aren't enlightened perfect beings in a world where there is a clear good and bad. We are animals with tools. Change doesn't, and will never come through the sudden realization of a population, it will come through a combination of the hard work of a small few, along with the facts lining up with them rather than the population that can, and will, do everything they can to resist change.

You see it with global warming, you see it with gay marriage, you see it with trans people, you see it with vegans, you see it with a thousand other groups. Each one thinks society is wrong, and believes they are correct. It's not up to society to change to their whims, it's up to them to show and prove their morality is the right one.

And I am talking about an ideal, I don't expect us all going on crusades for justice or anything. The perfect person doesn't exist, and we all make mistakes and have flaws. However, when you are taking time out of your day to correct someone, and scold them for something like considering a rapper flawed, do so in a constructive and progressive way, not in a demeaning and regressive one.

    Also, go to Ferguson, please tell me that the police officers there agree with me.

I would be willing to bet money that not a single person in furgeson considers black people as less than human. I am willing to bet that instead they will talk about the black people being poor and ending up in jail on their own merit. nobody considers themselves the bad guy. Arguing that "society treats black people as inhuman" is going to change nobodies minds, and it will make an impression on nobody.

The issue isn't people treating black people as inhuman, as animals. Attacking that issue will never accomplish anything, outside of making the population that already stands for equality outraged. Congrats, nobodies minds have changed, and people now dislike each other even more!

And I am not interested in your video of a single person in a single situation. I have seen actual, well researched, studies, that say everything I need to hear about discrimination.

My point isn't that such things do not exist, but instead that ranting and raving about how society treats black people as inhuman and how wrong society is will fix nothing, accomplish nothing, and lead to a society that is stuck in a ditch while yelling at each other.