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user-inactivated  ·  3566 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: (NSFW) Racist comments on reddit gilded significantly, possibly a raid from 4chan's /pol/ board.

    As clearly acknowledged by me, I even gave an example. Women aren't expected to be "providers" like men are, and the stress and social pressure associated with struggling with that can be considerable.

That's not really what I meant.

Men commit suicide 3 times as often as women, but have no systemic access to facilities to help them work through it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide#United_States

There is a 60% difference in the length of jail terms for men and women for the same crime http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002

But no one really talks about it the way they do with minorities.

Men are statistically more likely to be the victim of domestic abuse than women (this isn't the best source, but google can you give plenty more): http://domesticviolencestatistics.org/men-the-overlooked-victims-of-domestic-violence/

A quote from the article: _According to one study, 63% of males as opposed to 15% of females had a deadly weapon used against them in a fight with an intimate partner_.

And we haven't even started talking about how men are treated under the family court systems.

But the point isn't that it happens and women are terrible, it's that men also face real inequities in our society. I don't mean simple social pleasure, I mean the sorts of inequities that causes a person to commit suicide from the unfairness of it all.

both genders face inequities in our society, but when the discussion constantly falls into "men are terrible for X" or "women are terrible for Y", it's hard to have the conversation "lets work together to solve issue X and issue Y".

you can also try and refute that with idealistic ideas about what the role of feminism is, but that's different from a discussion about the realistic effects feminism has had on both men and women (the good and the bad).