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I thought that reddit was fine, and I wasn't really annoyed at it, but then someone mentioned hubski in the thread about the votes-not-showing-change and I went and checked the site out. And well, I don't know how I stood and even liked reddit for so long. Hubski is better, it is more about content and long articles and actual discussions instead of in-jokes and memes. I've commented more here in 2-3 days than I did at reddit, well, in 2 years. I feel more welcomed here and I feel like hubski actually is a community.