Ah. See this is exactly what I am talking about. Maybe healthy can equal tasty. I just don't know. There's a way we eat now. And there's tons of healthy food advocacy. The concept of data noise is really overwhelming. I don't know if someone who doesn't have 'legitimate' body issues understands. I'm overweight. Very much so. Not a day goes by without me worrying about everything I eat. You have those who tell you a certain thing is good. And those who tell you it is bad. It is no longer a question of maybes. I have to lose weight now. Right now. It can't be postponed. I need an answer now. Every meal is a calculation. I don't know if I'm able to communicate the urgency people like me feel. In between the horror of seeing the person you have become and the fear of being ridiculed, written off there is a genuine desire to know. What am I doing wrong? How is that guy thinner. How can he eat as much as I do and not have to grapple with this? Why can't I just enjoy a beer like anyone else without being judged? I don't know. I will try out the combos you suggest. They sound like fun. Edit: This comment is showing up twice. I don't know why.