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If you have ever looked around the average cookbook for a bread recipe chances are you've encountered this:
"Combine all ingredients and knead dough for 5-10 mins or until dough is smooth and bounces back when poked. Dough should feel slightly tacky. If not, add flour. Put dough in a warm place until double in size. Punch down and allow to double again. Shape dough and allow to double then bake."
cliffelam, I know you bake bread regularly, is that similar to the recipe you use?