a thoughtful web.
Good ideas and conversation. No ads, no tracking.   Login or Take a Tour!
comment by Quatrarius
Quatrarius  ·  1006 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Netflix employees walk out to protest Dave Chappelle’s special.

there is no way of knowing somebody's intent. i don't think it's dave's conscious intent to make something harmful, but i also think that even if his intent was to increase hate, that it wouldn't matter. actions matter, not thoughts. i think that the rhetoric in his special contributes to an environment that negatively affects the real experiences of trans people, in addition to not being funny. it fails in terms of social commentary and comedy.

i do think that if bill burr did a special as tone-deaf on race as chappelle has been with trans issues, that black netflix employees would have the same reaction as trans ones (including black trans ones) have had to this special. the issue here, again, is that chappelle's special isn't funny, and is using "it's just jokes" as an excuse for lazy commentary. i don't think bill burr would ever get into that kind of situation with race because bill burr seems to have a good understanding of race.

people boycotting netflix is not listening. it is "not buying a ticket". netflix gives chappelle a lot of money for these recorded specials, and there's no way to just not attend the performance. it's coming out of the money netflix gets for subscriptions. why police the way that people protest in the name of the abstract principles of standup? comedy being under attack by the PC police has been a tool of the conservative right for decades, and it remains true that it's more likely that celebrities will face greater financial issues from alienating mainstream society than by pissing off minority groups. kevin hart is still a millionaire. the dixie chicks tanked their career.

it's just so hacky, man. anybody can make an "i identify as an attack helicopter - i'm asiangender!" joke. when chappelle talks about postop pussy, he's laughing at trans people, not with them. he's punching down.

https://img.ifunny.co/images/f5e4dfacce35988e912ca28fe33d641707a0dd996501ffa24aee97d147e258ca_1.webp

same joke, told funnier, on a crunchy ass ifunny meme from 2019 that's a repost off of twitter





thenewgreen  ·  1006 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    same joke, told funnier, on a crunchy ass ifunny meme from 2019 that's a repost off of twitter
It's not the same joke. Dave's joke is much funnier. But that's the thing, this is all very subjective. Humor is subjective. Again, I think it's his least funny special. But its still much funnier than most imo.

I have to get to bed now. I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on this. Truly. Onward!