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kleinbl00  ·  1287 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Republican senator says ‘democracy isn’t the objective’ of US system

    I know republicans better than anyone on this site.

You don't, actually. What you know better than anyone else on this site is the sect you grew up in, which taught you to hate the outsider, which you responded to by rejecting the sect but not the hate, so now you use the exact same hatred and dismissiveness you learned at your parents' knee to lash out at that tribe you're still oh so very angry at without noticing that it impresses no one, gets you no bonus points, and accomplishes exactly what your tribe wants, namely giving them more reasons to be hateful insular bigots.

Every time you assume that your prior experiences give you credibility to run roughshod over arguments, you presume that no one has had your experiences, no one has been in your shoes, no one has gone through your shit or else they would have arrived at the exact same conclusions, obviously.

No.

I lived among your people since I was fuckin' born. Difference is, they hated me from the get-go. But you know what? I'm 15 years older so I'm over it. Lets me see more clearly.

When I say "I know X better than anyone on this site" I give it a lot of forethought, rather than presuming my depth of emotion equates to depth of knowledge.





OftenBen  ·  1284 days ago  ·  link  ·  

From what age to what age did you identify as Republican?

kleinbl00  ·  1284 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Can I give you a tip, OB? I just had an insight.

I'm not sure where you learned to debate like this. I suspect it's a performative pantomime of your parents because it presumes (A) neither side will convince the other (B) neither side will stop talking (C) the winner is whoever gets the biggest rise out of their opponent.

Rhetoric is the art of persuasion. It's one of the three ancient arts of discourse and forms the basis for all debate. The goal of rhetoric is to alter someone's viewpoint. Taunting, on the other hand, is belittlement for social status. In a taunt, it is presumed that neither party will be won over by the other and the only stakes are which side will lose more face.

See, Ben, you don't debate. At all. You taunt. And maybe you don't do it on purpose? But every comment you make in these discussions doesn't serve to compel your counterpart or the audience. They serve to belittle your counterpart in order to increase your social status.

There's a place for taunts. But trying to convince someone through taunting is the equivalent of shouting "BLACK LIVES MATTER" at Richard Spencer.