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user-inactivated  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: June 5, 2019

    Or, in a context: can you love someone and yet think the things they do are terrible and hateful?

i read a really weird longform slice of life piece on the guy who tried to kill reagan. he got out a while back, controversially, moved back in with his mother. says he's reformed but still clearly nuts, although not dangerous. his mom basically said she was so happy to have someone around the house again. she seemed over the moon.

so yeah the answer is gonna be yes as long as you're talking parents and children.





ilex  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think I want to make a distinction here between things people have done and things people do. People can change and can be forgiven for things they have done, but that can only be meaningful if they do different things going forward.

It seems like this guy, despite having done some terrible things in the past, is now not doing those same things. And I think that's an important part of this.

    he answer is gonna be yes as long as you're talking parents and children.
yep this is the exact context I'm thinking through myself right now.

(Also, I would totally buy that guy a beer. Fuck Reagan.)

user-inactivated  ·  1782 days ago  ·  link  ·  

yeah fuck reagan

kleinbl00  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah John Hinkley Jr isn't a great guy. He didn't shoot Reagan because he wanted to shoot Reagan, he shot Reagan because he thought it was the best way to impress Jodie Foster.

    I feel very good about the fact you at least know my name and how I feel about you. And by hanging around your dormitory I've come to realize that I'm the topic of more than a little conversation, however full of ridicule it may be. At least you know that I'll always love you.

We're talkin' about a guy who thought Taxi Driver was a love story.

And while I, myself, am not a fan of Reagan, Hinkley created a world where fuckin' Al Haig tried to seize the government.

ilex  ·  1783 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, damn, so much for that then.