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OftenBen  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Alexandria Ocasio Cortez Discovers No Ethics Laws Apply to the President

Whether or not her nose is clean isn't relevant.

A smear job will be attempted. It will be believed by some percentage of the population.




johnnyFive  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Whether or not her nose is clean isn't relevant.

Except that it's not slander if it's true.

OftenBen  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Things that you and I consider virtuous can be used as evidence of moral failing by those who believe differently.

It's true that AOC danced in a video for her college a few years ago. To you and I that's a big ol nothing-berder. To those who believe differently, it might as well be a sex tape as far as scandal potential.

That's the point I'm trying to make.

If she proves to be a two-faced evil sack of shit, we are better off knowing that so a better leader can take her place.

johnnyFive  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If she proves to be a two-faced evil sack of shit, we are better off knowing that so a better leader can take her place.

That's what I was referring to.

OftenBen  ·  251 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Right but her Vice or virtue isn't relevant to the question of whether or not a smear job will be run on her.

She could be the literal second coming with Halos and trumpets and she would still be attacked on Fox and Friends.

johnnyFive  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, but since that's inevitable it's not worth worrying about. What is worth worrying about is whether they'll find something that is actually bad.

OftenBen  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What is 'actually bad?'

johnnyFive  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Uh, something that would actually make her unqualified for office?

OftenBen  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And I'm asking for an example of behavior that makes a politician unqualified* for office in our current political environment.

johnnyFive  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Typically I'd think of corruption, violence, or a crime of moral turpitude (i.e. involving lying, cheating, or stealing). Of course the devil is in the details, but that's the general ballpark.

OftenBen  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Got it.

I'm firmly in your camp regarding the hopes for AOC.

bfv  ·  250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pay stubs from the GRU?