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coffeesp00ns  ·  2489 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Farmers Take Out Millions In Loans To Raise Chickens For Big-Box Retailers

Honestly, because it's Costco and they have built up some good name capital, i think this might be a good deal for these farmers.

Unless you're in the agriculture industry, or in the food industry, you might not know that a lot of chicken (especially things like wings) is coming from Brazil. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if Costco can get some American farmers on board, and get them making money, and get them producing a good product, they could probably get some really good business out of it.

I'm always suspicious, but this sounds pretty win-win.





kleinbl00  ·  2488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

10 years ago:

Tyson and Purdue lock their farmers down into exclusivity agreements and then make the farmers carry all the risk. The reason Costco is getting other farmers into the act, I reckon, is they have decided they can get a better price if they cut Tyson and Purdue out of the equation.

Farm loans are also mind-blowing. My wife's cousin has 400 head of cattle, a dairy barn, no land and $10m in debt. She will never pay it off, they just refinance it and refinance it and refinance it and push it out with subsidies. That's the way our market agriculture economy works - the government pays to keep you in business and you profit on whatever you make over the top. Crop insurance is the craziest: the government issues the payout but individual brokers sell the coverage. It's 100% risk free for the broker but they make a commission based on assuming zero risk.

    "A disaster flock I call them," says OCM President Mike Weaver, who raises poultry on contract in West Virginia. "They contract a disease that stunts their growth. And that's going to happen to (the farmers) eventually. The feed and the chicks, they don't have control over, but their pay is going to be based on those."

So buy fucking insurance.

If Tyson says they'll pay what they want to pay for your chickens this year, no guarantees for next year, also we're raising the interest rate on your loan, also if you talk to the press you lose your franchise, while Costco says they'll sign a 15-year contract, GO WITH COSTCO.

    For instance, if the project struggles financially, Costco can cancel the contract.

It's almost as if Costco has lobbyists:

    Much of the poultry meat industry is vertically integrated. Integrators typically control feed

    supply, grow-out requirements, transportation, slaughter, processing, and wholesale distribution

    and may control brood egg production and hatching. The integrators consequently have

    remarkable control of their products and vast market power relative to growers. There are many

    fewer growers in the layer and gamebird sectors than in the meat sectors.

    Under the terms of the contract for this project and the enabling legislation for this study, the

    proposed insurance product would provide coverage for growers by paying an indemnity for a

    single cause of loss: the bankruptcy of the integrator. Insurance for business interruption is

    available for many businesses, including sectors of the poultry industry. The Contractor has

    identified insurance in the private sectors covering business interruption losses of a grower

    resulting from integrator bankruptcy. A determination would need to be made about whether

    this insurance is “generally available.”

When Costco wanted to sell booze in Washington State, they spent $22m kicking the state out of the liquor business. If Costco wants to blow up Tyson we should give them dynamite.

user-inactivated  ·  2488 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Unless you're in the agriculture industry, or in the food industry, you might not know that a lot of chicken (especially things like wings) is coming from Brazil.

Refrigeration and shipping really affects a lot. I know a few years back, and probably still now, Africa had a huge problem with their local chicken farmers being undersold by frozen chicken shipped in from Europe. I can imagine, economically and politically, it was probably quite the mess.