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steve  ·  378 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Shake it up. Offer up one somewhat unpopular opinion that you hold.

I agree with so much of what you said... in an idealistic sense... but sometimes unfortunately,

    If you are a single parent, you should get less welfare and benefits.

on the front end... this makes a TON of sense... on the back end.. when asshole leaves the lady with four kids hanging... she's now up a creek.

    Oh, and visible tattoos and body modification are stupid. WTF is up with the idiotic nose ring thing? And gauges? Stop that shit.

I am chuckling out loud at this one... a running joke in my family: face tattoos all say "DO NOT HIRE ME"

    The government should move away from "marriage" and more toward a "civil union" model so that the religious and traditional people can get a marriage and have that mean what they want.

    Gay people should be allowed to have the legal and financial benefits of marriage/civil unions.

a thousand times... this. Excellent post.

francopoli  ·  377 days ago  ·  link  ·  

By "less benefits" I am not exactly saying cuts, but if there is a married couple with kids we should do what we can to keep them together and that will cost more. In the end keeping families together on aggregate is better for the taxpayers and society in general.

steve  ·  376 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I get it... it's just tough to incentivize one without de-incentivizing the other.

and the more I think about the individual couples, single parents, and kids I've worked closely with... some of this breaks down just because people are people, and some people are real assholes.

ButterflyEffect  ·  377 days ago  ·  link  ·  

To you and francopoli:

Obviously a face tattoo would indicate a lack of judgment and forethought by the person getting a tattoo. But what about a forearm tattoo? An ankle tattoo? Where is the line for you, and why is it that a more obscure tattoo than a forehead tattoo is a potential limitation to professional progression? To me, the examples provided are on the more extreme end of the tattoo spectrum. Does this, to you, indicate a lack of thought about the consequences of our actions?

To me, a tattoo is paint on a canvas (speaking as somebody with no tattoos), and I'm of the thought that this in general serves little indication of a person's ambition, talent, and place in society.

steve  ·  376 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't really care about tattoos personally. Don't have any... and don't care if anyone has any.

It's a running family joke, but there is truth in humor. Our choices have consequences. Permanent choices like tattoos and other forms of body scarification can and will be judged by society. While you or I might still hire a person covered with piercings and ink... I think the person drastically limits their options.

francopoli  ·  377 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Answered a bit elsewhere in thread. In a professional setting if you can cover the artwork? Don't care. I've seen good sleeves and some really bad ones. I've seen neat "tramp stamps" and some that are everything about the stereotype and beyond.

    To me, a tattoo is paint on a canvas (speaking as somebody with no tattoos), and I'm of the thought that this in general serves little indication of a person's ambition, talent, and place in society.

And again, I carry my bias with me, as everyone does. A butterfly on a shoulder is a much different beast than a neck tattoo, or a line of writing across the chest. I have to force myself to put my bias aside because it is not the 1960's anymore and "normal" people have tattoos now. But that is still a bias I have.

In other news, it looks like my views on body ink are the one thing in this thread that goes against the Hubski Hive Mind.

ButterflyEffect  ·  376 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not going against the Hubski Hive Hind, it's going immediately to face/neck tattoos and hand tattos. Which yes, they exist, but are also edge cases more than anything else.

Do appreciate reading your comments on this thread, it's a nice change in perspective than the typical Hubski conversation.