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johnnyFive  ·  1585 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Noam Chomsky: "Why are we failing to organize these people?"

I'm not sure either. They say "white people" a lot, which is usually a red flag (heh), but then they talk about being actively anti-racist a lot too. I do like the idea of a group that is against the alt-right while still speaking at least some of the same language, and God knows working class folks need some viable alternatives.

low_ho_fosho  ·  1583 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I thought the website was really interesting. I do think there is room for a positive view of white identity, but obviously that has been poisoned by too many groups.

johnnyFive  ·  1581 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe. But that raises significant questions in my mind viz. the degree to which we can overcome racial issues while still recognizing race as a meaningful identity.

galen  ·  1585 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The references to John Brown are certainly promising.

johnnyFive  ·  1585 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah. I don't know my labor history well enough to know if they're describing things accurately (the same is true for their description of some of the civil rights groups in the '60s). It's all very odd, but I haven't found anything to actively dislike yet.