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b_b  ·  3293 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: 5 'Easy' Steps to a Gun Free America




wasoxygen  ·  3255 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Badger Guns was ordered (pending appeal) to pay nearly $6 million to two police officers shot by guns illegally sold to a straw buyer.

The owner's son took over the store, implementing a variety of changes:

    Mike Allan’s first move was to adopt a members-only model that requires customers to register with the store and to pay a membership fee. Would-be buyers must also demonstrate proficiency with a firearm....

    But there are also signs laying out strict rules for would-be buyers:

    “Must be 21 to enter. Proper ID required.”

    “No cell phones allowed.”

    And for the droopy-drawered set of possible customers: “Pull your pants up or don’t come in. Try to have some decency and respect. No one wants to see your underwear.”

    The rules are serious, Schwarz said: Staff members “will ask you to leave” if you show up with a cellphone. The policy is designed to prevent straw buyers from texting photos of guns to friends outside.

b_b  ·  3255 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So the takeaway message apparently is that punitive damages can lead to a change in behavior, no?

wasoxygen  ·  3247 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think so. Providing a dangerous tool to an unqualified person can be a kind of reckless endangerment to the public. This can be a difficult judgement call (a car is dangerous too), so you might get better results on a legal-case-by-legal-case basis than trying to apply general rules.

The coffee-gun analogy is a bit strained, because of the difference in "worked as designed" outcomes. Also, the famous coffee lawsuit is an interesting story, and not a very good example of the need for tort reform in my view. The customer asked for $20,000 to cover expenses, and McDonald's offered $800, then it went to court.

Interestingly, McDonald's was already printing warnings on the coffee cups at the time.