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insomniasexx  ·  4094 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Banish the trolls but web debate needs anonymity | Technology | The Observer

    Arianna Huffington said: "Trolls are just getting more and more aggressive and uglier and I just came from London where there are rape and death threats. I feel that freedom of expression is given to people who stand up for what they say and [are] not hiding behind anonymity. We need to evolve a platform to meet the needs of the grown-up internet."

Gah. It isn't the anonymity that is the sole cause of people acting horridly online. It is a small part of what enables them to do so but it isn't the whole story. Different communities foster different types of comments. HuffPo isn't quality web. Most of their stories are clickbaits - links with exceptionally written headlines to intrigue users to click and read the top 10 bullshit lists.

What happens is that the users who prefer these types of links aren't the users who enjoy reading, learning, and sharing the knowledge. They are bored Facebook users who prefer a slideshow of images or a list of mediocre advice over long form articles that require actual use of their time and mind. The quality of content on your news site or blog has a tremendous effect on the quality of comments.

Similarly, the quality of existing comments is a huge determining factor of what new visitors expect and how they chose to act on the site. If you visit 4chan, you see the sick trolling don't-give-a-fuck community and act similarly in order to fit in. If you see a page filled with intelligent discourse and civil debate you will act similarly. I really can't imagine anyone coming on Hubski and trolling with rape or death threats.

it's a shame that HuffPo has gotten to the point where their existing commenting community is so broken that they feel the need to force real identities upon people, but there is a very slim chance it will solve the problem. More likely all this outside media coverage will incite even more trolling and hate.

ps: Long time no see! Great to have you back. How's life treating you lately?





thenewgreen  ·  4094 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    If you visit 4chan, you see the sick trolling don't-give-a-fuck community and act similarly in order to fit in.
When we take our daughter to a loud restaurant, she tends to act out. She will scream, yell and sing and even run around the place. That said, when we take her to a quieter place, she acts accordingly. The culture of a website means a lot. You are right about the Huffington Post, the quality of content there is pretty horrible. Why they think their comments would be better than their content is beyond me.
fr33lunch  ·  4075 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorry for the super delayed response. Its been way too long since I've been active here. There are about a dozen reasons but I'm trying to make the time to play again here--I've missed it. @thenewgreen has been prodding me to come back for months now so I'll try to contribute more again and lurk less.

thenewgreen  ·  4075 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm nothing if not persistent. Missed you pal.

fr33lunch  ·  4075 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Persistent and fast to respond!

user-inactivated  ·  4093 days ago  ·  link  ·  

To add to this -- didn't the people she's mentioning who threatened to rape the British politician on Twitter (a threat which, while sad and pathetic, is something politicians are used to handling) get arrested? Twitter isn't anonymous!