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Lawd - It's telling that I talked about ping, and didn't even think of the horrid time difference. 2pm Thursday right now, must be evening Wednesday for you? Somehow we made it work, I'm the only Kiwi so I work around their reasonable Aussie schedule, but most of them have kids, partners and.. Lives. So last night was a veritable miracle and I doubt we'll see it again, despite our plans. I hop in and out of the game, I can not play it for a year or two then the group has the urge like we do now. As you say, it's very try-hard and we're old, slow dudes now.