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rinx  ·  3273 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Radicalizing the Romanceless

You seem to be agreeing with all my original points in a very angry tone. So this had probably gone wrong at some point. At the risk of continuing the mess I have a few things I'd like to respond to -

I'm not going to do the line by line quotey thing because I think taking peoples comments line by line tends to ruin context and prevent real discussion. I will say I disagree with your interpretation and comments on my intentions pretty on pretty much all points. I'm not dog whistling, wishing the article was longer, or ever, at any point, attacking you for disagreeing with me. The only time I mention you is to ask you to not bring up irrelevant things I mentioned in another thread. That wasn't an attack on you, I just don't think it helps the conversation for you to make assumptions based off a point about me personally that you don't understand. I never said you were employing a logical fallacy - I said the author's points were a pretty typical golden mean fallacy

"They" is gamergaters, sad puppies, and authors who use abused women as a benchmark for their sex life. I never implied it was anyone on this site, although hubski definitely has a few. Maybe you have them filtered, or maybe you've just had a much longer timeline for this stuff so we've had a different experience here. Feminism is the only tag I've seen trolled to death, and the comments on my hugo awards post were far from a more thoughtful web.

    fling gamergate at anyone with a Y chromosome is unhelpful to the discussion.

    I can actively disagree with the statements and still end up getting tarred with the MRA brush.

    only those who hate women would dare to talk about this.

It's incredibly unfair you assume that because I disagree with you I'm labeling you as sexist. Or really labeling you as anything. None of this, until this post, has been about you in the slightest. I disagreed with an article and said why. I never had any intention of painting you or anyone else on this site into a corner with a pejorative label. "MRA" "Feminist" "Racist" "Sexist". I came here to escape that bullshit. Sure I'm a feminist. I'm a lot of other things too, and I prefer following people instead of interests because you get the full range of what they have to offer.

I have no intention of turning boyyski into another cesspool. I love the idea of more men focused discussions and I'd hate to be a detractor from that. I'll switch to lurking here, end to the heated conversations.