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user-inactivated  ·  3416 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How often do mass shootings occur (in the US)? On average, *once a day*.

Mass shootings occur once a day in the US? I know a lot of you guys are smarter than that, and everyone should work to be a lot less biased in how easily they accept these kinds of articles. It's these kinds of statistics that make it look like you don't actually want to work with the other side and find a solution to mass shootings that is amenable to the 2nd Amendment. And to be fair, some of you want full repeal of the 2nd (which is a valid political opinion). But it's never going to play in most of the country and you need a huge majority to ratify an amendment to the US Constitution.

I asked "How would you stop mass shootings?" a while ago and that was the big solution: Outlaw firearms. I get it, that would work to the extent of stopping mass shootings for the most part. It doesn't always work surely, we can look at Paris to see that, but they do have fewer shootings than we do. It's not a question of whether or not that would work, it's a question of how well you can convince the other side that it's worth it and you refuse to see the value of firearms in any case. That's ludicrous. Articles like this are BS and are equivalent to the NRA telling me that, "Jesus had an AR-15 and so should you!" It's political propaganda but you are choosing to buy into it because it verifies what you're talking about.

Here's another NYT article which discusses why this article is terrible. A quick quote from that article: "Almost all of the gun crimes behind the much larger statistic are less lethal and bear little relevance to the type of public mass murder we have just witnessed again. Including them in the same breath suggests that a 1 a.m. gang fight in a Sacramento restaurant, in which two were killed and two injured, is the same kind of event as a deranged man walking into a community college classroom and massacring nine and injuring nine others." Don't get me wrong, all gun violence is tragic, and these lives count just as much as someone else, but you can clearly see that's not the same thing.

This is media bias 101. This makes me doubt that you credibly want to work with me toward an actually viable solution. You are the deadlock that you hate to see in Congress where one side digs in deep and refuses to move. Is that really who you want to be politically? An idealistic zealot who won't concede an inch?

I could guess that you'll say, "I'm only like that on guns. Guns are the one issue I won't compromise on." But I kind of doubt that once you're dug in on one issue that you don't mirror that in others. Entrenched ideas look like burial to everyone else.