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Grendel  ·  3411 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Germany to legislate 30 percent quota for women on company boards

Actually, women entering the workforce hasn't helped men in any way. It hasn't taken pressure off men, since they're still expected to provide for themselves and their families, and most women are not comfortable with the idea of having a partner who earns less than themselves.

The fact that women can now contribute financially to the household income is cancelled by the fact that before women entered the workforce, there wasn't a need for two incomes for every family; the influx of millions of new workers into the marketplace has lowered wages and made it more difficult for men to find entry-level jobs.

The "77 cents for every dollar" is a feminist myth that has been debunked so many times, one wonders why people still repeat it.

    One of the best studies on the wage gap was released in 2009 by the U.S. Department of Labor. It examined more than 50 peer-reviewed papers and concluded that the 23-cent wage gap "may be almost entirely the result of individual choices being made by both male and female workers." In the past, women's groups have ignored or explained away such findings.

No, I hadn't read that declaration before, but it's typical feminist whining. For a long time women couldn't vote and had to obey laws that they had no say in? Well, neither did men, but this fact seems to have escaped them.

Women didn't have to work, unlike men; a woman could go through her whole life without ever having to work, her husband being legally required to support her even after the union had been broken (I'm still waiting for feminists to try and abolish alimony).

They weren't forced (and still aren't!) to fight and die in pointless wars from which they had nothing to gain (curiously enough, feminists are not asking for 50% of soldiers to be female).

Women were so oppressed that they could often get away with killing their husbands, and even today they receive lighter sentences for the same crimes.

    We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men, and if we were free and developed, healthy in body and mind, as we should be under natural conditions, our motherhood would be our glory. That function gives women such wisdom and power as no male can possess.

This is a quote by Elizabeth Cady Stanton, one of the mothers of feminism. Does it sound like she just wanted equality to you?

While we're on the topic of first-wave feminism, did you know that in 1912 a man could be jailed if his wife refused to pay her taxes? And some suffragettes -those paragons of virtue- apparently decided to take advantage of this. Link

    Under the married women property act a husband has no jurisdiction over his wife's property and income. Under the income tax he is responsible for her taxes. If the taxes are not paid, the husband, not the wife, is imprisoned. Mrs. Wilks refused to pay her income tax - $185 - and her husband was locked up. He will spend the rest of his life in prison unless his wife pays or the law is changed. When at liberty he is a teacher in Clapton.

    Meanwhile, it's obvious that you feel aggrieved and you probably have good reason.

You're right! I'm a self-respecting man, and I'm sick and tired of being lied to by feminists.

Feminists have destroyed the traditional family, they've deprived men of the right to see their children, they've made marriage a suicidal choice for men, they've sent innocent men to jail for crimes they never committed, they've tried their best to make it impossible for a man to defend himself from an accusation of rape, they've justified female violence and ignored male victims of violence. Hate hate hate.

Everywhere they go they demand that rules be changed to favour women, that more money be spent on programs that help women, more rights, more attention, more sympathy. More more more.

They don't give a fuck about men and boys, and never have. Whenever they talk about men, it's either to say "men are the problem" (we need more feminism) or "men are starting to do worse than women" (good, but not good enough! we need more feminism).

Try asking a feminist what she thinks about the problems that men face and what can be done about them. I've tried, and the responses ranged from "men's problems are not important", "men have problems too but women have it worse", "men's problems will magically disappear if we just help women more", "you're sexist for suggesting that men deserve help". I've never met a feminist who was even a little empathetic. But they'll tell you that they want equality, and that you're a misogynist if you disagree with them.