Patents will expire before GMO's become anywhere near so prevalent that you cannot find seeds that are not GMO.

You are missing the point that nature doesn't follow human made law. Once the GMOs are out and cross pollinating with native varieties that's it, there's no going back. I'm starting to repeat myself. Even right now, I wonder how many people are growing seeds with GM genes, without knowing, due to involuntary cross pollination. This clearly shows how ridiculous the idea of co-existence of GM crops with traditional ones, as pushed forward by GM proponents, truly is.

Consumers really don't have much of one when nearly every product you can buy is GMO.

Exactly. And the authoritarian mentality of the bio-tech industry is spending millions to ensure it stays that way. Lack of choice is the definition of totalitarianism.

People will believe anything they are told, and bending to these stupid crazes does nothing.

This just reinforces my previous statement. You're starting to contradict yourself just like the industry you're supporting. You said before that people are not stupid and you're now calling people who don't follow your way of thinking "stupid crazes". This says more about you than about the people you're judging.

GMO's do not need special labeling, although more information is always better.

Another contradiction. Can you please explain how can you have more information without labelling?

Farmers aren't stupid.

I never called farmers stupid. I'm sure they make the best economic choice with the least possible effort for themselves. However, just because something is economically advantageous it doesn't mean that it's the best course of action and definitely does not mean that it's environmentally sound.

They know how to keep a field's soil in a way that keeps it fertile year after year.

That's not true. Modern agriculture is known to erode and deplete arable soils of nutrition. Chemical fertilizers add 3 chemicals to the soil, while plants require several dozens. It's obvious this is unsustainable.

Heck, farming is nearly down to a science at this point.

If you mean military science, then I'd wholly agree. War zone is the most accurate metaphor to describe mono-cultures where everything else is killed but the crop for human consumption.

How much do you know about farming by the way? You an expect? You ever spoken to a farmer? Ever bothered looking up the reasons behind the practices? Or are you just jumping on the social bandwagon of how horrible these GMO's are, how the unnatural farming techniques are making us unhealthy and stupid.

What does my background matter for? Are you looking for reasons to personally attack me because you're running out of arguments? I have spoken to plenty of farmers, my parents were farmers. I grew up in a small self-subsistence farm until I moved on to study IT. I have since volunteered at a number of farms and I now have a small garden where I grow my own food organically. How about you? Do you know what it takes to grow a carrot without pesticide,herbicide,fungicide and chemical fertilizer?

Magic flowers will power the world, cure all toxins, and feed people with almost no need for water at all.

I'm sorry but recurring to facetiousness shows you ran out of arguments and just strips away any last credibility you may have had. I mentioned specifically Permaculture as a sustainable alternative that needs more research. Even current organic agriculture is a step up from chemical agriculture.

I am only aware of 1) overfishing, and 2) global warming that are things that are looking to actually be catastrophic.

You truly live in a bubble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_environmental_issues

The number of wind farms has gone up far faster in recent years than the number of coal plants. Things are changing.

True, things are slowly changing in some directions but regressing in others such as the pursuit of GM as an unnecessary solution to solve challenges which can be solved without it. Imagine how much further ahead we could be if all those billions biotech if swimming in were invested in researching truly sustainable tech.

Why not in seed banks? Isn't it best to have the diversity in storage where nothing can learn to infect it?

All seeds have a shelf life, even in seed banks. Also, seed banks protect seeds from the elements. This prevents them from adapting to the changing weather, atmosphere, soil conditions, micro-climates, etc. If the seed is not grow in its natural environment generation after generation, there's no guaranty that seeds saved today will survive the conditions in 50, 100, 500 years time. Besides there are so many varieties scattered across all over the globe, from farmers to small scale gardeners, that it'd impossible to collect them all.

As time passes we take more and more under our control, and learn to better and better control it.

"Control it" is the key here isn't it? The arrogance of controlling nature to fit human needs at the expense of everything else is what brought us where we are today. Our own well being above all else, instead of collaboration and trying to live in harmony with other living beings and systems.

No body of water is more pristine than those we purify for our cities.

You're confusing sanitized with pristine.

I am sure the dinosaurs would agree.

The dinosaurs didn't go extinct due to the stupidity of their own doing. The same can be said about the species that go extinct everyday due to human selfishness and stupidity.

History has not fared kindly to all those creatures that relied on nature to keep them alive. Nature will have a fit one day and kill us all if we don't stop it from doing so.

It amazes me that on one hand you're all for technological advancement at any cost, fucking the planet over, and on the other you have the guts to blame nature for our own fuck up, which you wholly support. Your arguments are full of contradictions and baseless opinions showing that you are either very confused or just having a laugh. In either case, I've exhausted all I have to say. All the best.