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fr33lunch  ·  4756 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Starbucks closes its washrooms
A topic that is close to my heart.

I currently run a large high-end retail store in an outdoor mall. Although plenty of other businesses around my store have restrooms, they do not allow their patrons to use their facilities. In fact, they take it a step further by suggesting that they come to my store. They even tell them what area in the store to find the restrooms, so that they can hurry in and return back to their stores...

The businessman in me knows that these customers walking through my door are added traffic and an opportunity to sell them something. The flip-side to this is the majority of the "customers" visiting my store just to use the restroom come from one of two stores: A pre-teen clothing store, whose customers are young girls who are dropped off by their parents to shop, and a big-chain bargain-reseller whose customers are not interested in much that is high-end--unless it's last season's.

My company does not have, nor will it allow me to implement, a patrons-only policy. At the same time, my company has devoted much time and money into tracking the conversion of our traffic to transactions. As a general manager, I am accountable for a metric requiring us to sell to a certain percentage of our traffic. It is, in part, how my performance as a manager is measured.

The plumbing in the surrounding area was installed many, many decades ago. As such, even the slightest plumbing issue results in about a $1000 plumbing bill every time I call. These funds come out of my operating-expenses budget and are a direct measure of another metric, profitability. So, say half a dozen 11-year-old girls are dropped off next door. One has to go to the bathroom. Well they're girls right? Then they ALL have to go. How many 11-year-olds do you think know better than to throw paper towels in the toilet? Not as many as you'd think.

So, should business have the right to not offer you a service? Damn right? Should basic sanitation and public health be maintained? Of course, but maybe they be provided by the mall, or strip mall that these businesses occupy.

As a side note, here in the golden state, I think any "restaurant" is required to offer restrooms to their patrons by law. Sorry Starbucks, you're screwed...





thenewgreen  ·  4723 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Hey pal, hope you are holding up well. I bet this time of year is hell in the retail world. Good luck.
mk  ·  4755 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I can definitely see this as a reasonable problem. I don't expect that a retail store should have a restroom. However, it is nice when larger stores, like Home Depot have a restroom, as you often need to spend quite some time in them.

However, I think that any place that serves food should have a restroom. My problem with Starbucks in this case is that they serve food. At the very least, I want to wash my hands before I eat my scone. Also, coffee makes you need to pee. Much of the attraction to a coffee shop is sipping you coffee as you read, work on your laptop, or talk to a friend. I'm sure that in a perfect world for Starbucks, everyone would get their coffee and leave, but that's not the business they are in. They are in the food and drink business. Restrooms are part of the package.

fr33lunch  ·  4755 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Indeed. For some religions, hand washing is a requirement after touching food.
hamburger  ·  4756 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Any manager that takes the time to calculate such things and be mindful of their overall opportunity costs is a solid employee. They're lucky to have you. That said, if I were you I would try to make lemonade. There has to be something in your store that appeals to 11 year old girls... right? Place this item right next to the crapper. Oh, and put a sign on that crapper that says, "putting paper towel in the toilet causes acne and makes you fat". That is sure to stop any 11 year old girl. Good luck.
fr33lunch  ·  4756 days ago  ·  link  ·  
:-)... My best solution was to remove all paper towel dispensers and replace them with air dryers instead. Better for the environment at least.
hamburger  ·  4756 days ago  ·  link  ·