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mk  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pathway to the Global Brain (Part 1/5)

    I don't feel any non-life creates internal order, they are just drifting towards disorder.
I disagree. As once explained by a friend, take a jar of dimes and quarters, and shake them, they sort in an orderly fashion. You could even call the formation of solar systems order from disorder. I don't think the hypothesis is critical to your thesis, however.

    but IMO what Global Brain will be is an environment where we are immersed in intelligence.
I wonder if this is a requisite. Just as an ant has no clue about the goals of the colony, or a neuron about problem solving, perhaps we won't (or needn't) be enlightened by (or participants in) the GB.




theadvancedapes  ·  3858 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I don't think the hypothesis is critical to your thesis, however.

Ya, it is really unrelated. It is just me trying to find out some fundamental difference between life and non-life. I am not surprised that I have a lot more work to do. There is a part of me that thinks there is something in the order/disorder separation. But of course you are right - the solar system is a formation of order from disorder. But what is it about life that is different? Do you have any opinion on this? I think I was really influenced by a biologist and philosopher Evan Thompson from UofT who emphasized the unity of life and mind. I think b_b influenced me on this as well. But I don't want to speak for him on the matter of unity between life and mind.

    I wonder if this is a requisite. Just as an ant has no clue about the goals of the colony, or a neuron about problem solving, perhaps we won't (or needn't) be enlightened by (or participants in) the GB.

It is definitely debated whether we will be aware of GB or whether it will be aware of us. It is not something I feel anyone knows, or really can know at this point... but it is fun to think about and discuss.

However, I do think a fully matured GB will only form once we are fully immersed in intelligence. Your entire environment... meaning your transportation, your experience at stores, schools, hospitals, etc. will all be intelligently mediated through activity in the environment that just knows you and your preferences/desires/ambitions, etc.