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Cortez  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What's something you're interested in but too lazy to learn?

    I spent two full days googling, codeacademy, downloaded a couple books, read lesson plans on how others taught themselves, everything.

That's exactly what happened with me. I didn't download any books but I kept open references and what not, by the third day I didn't even have to look anything. I use to ask people "How did you learn Lua, how did you learn Java Programming, how did you learn C++" and those people would tell me but it never helped me, finally I just decided to do it my own way but this time I wanted to learn CSS and Java, my friend offered me a chance at something, and I did some designs in Fireworks, went off and made it.

Truly the best way to learn programming is to just do it.

    I'm working on a real site for a real client right now for work and I still don't have a fucking clue what I'm doing. Usually it takes about 4 stackoverflow posts before I get a real answer to the problem I was dealing with. But those little bits and pieces stick in my brain and now I use that knowledge on the next site or page.
Stackoverflow is amazing, I'm really bad at asking questions there, but I guarantee there's always one person willing to be patient with you.

    So, my advice to you, is stop learning and start doing. Even if you are recreating something that already exists, the mere process of doing so will teach you skills, bits and pieces of information.

This is the most truthful thing about programming you'll ever learn.





insomniasexx  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have only asked one question on stack overflow. Usually I just google and then read all the different answers and discussions because my problems have yet to be unique.

I'm running into a weird occurrence in IE8 for this project so I might have to break down and post there since I don't even know how search for this issue.

Cortez  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Whats happening?

insomniasexx  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We have a fun site/webapp thing that needs to be vertically responsive. We told them that it was going to be an awesome super futuristic html5, any device, etc. They were excited. We coded it up, figured out how to do it, and sent them the link and all management at the brand that has to approve. They are all running ie8. Our analytics actually show one person on ie6!!! So now we have to re-do, fix the jquery/javasript, do flash fallback, etc. Not too big of a deal, just more work.

Problem is...

To position the buttons horizontally (because there is no defined width, only a defined height of 100%) I have a shrink-wrapped div (or span I've tried both) around the main image.

The problem is in ie8, the shrinkwrapped div (or span) doesn't shrink wrap to the 100% height version of the image but to the actual version of the image and therefore the sizing and positioning of the buttons and videos aren't working.

Without the sticky div properly shrinkwrapped, the buttons and the video are messed up because they are positioned with %'s and sized with percentages - of the sticky div.

On IE8, I think it is taking measurements on the size of the actual image, before it resizes based on the 100% height parameter. In dev tools on IE8 I can uncheck the 100% height box and the sticky fits perfectly around the image.

I'll pm you the link so you can see better. It's just pretty private, so no sharing.

Cortez  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am a firm believer that if they're running IE it's they're fault. But you're working for a company so I guess it's different :

    insomniasexx  ·  4185 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Yup. I believe the same. Before I knew they were on IE8, I told them that it wouldn't be supported on old browsers. It's like one of the biggest brands. Even they can't upgrade their computers?!

    They seemed to get it and be excited. But their lazy ass IT dept or whatever keeps them on fucking IE8 so I have to code for IE8 or they don't have a way to approve the site.

    Seriously, when we found this out we thought it would probably be easier to hack their network and upgrade their browsers than try to fix it. Seeing as they are all running IE8, it can't be that hard to hack, right?

    //note for nsa: I'm not seriously going to hack their network