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I went to a school that nobody's heard of my for undergrad (because I was a fuckup in high school, and didn't have a lot of options), and then I went to the same school for my PhD (because I loved it, even though I had lots of options). When you submit journal articles for peer review, they don't ask where you went to school. I can say that going to a non-elite university has not hindered me professionally at all. But to your choices, PSU and UW aren't exactly light weights. Those are great schools that have tons of amazing professors. IMO, the choice for grad school shouldn't be, "Is this a good school?" It should be, "Does this potential thesis adviser's work seem like it will keep me interested all day and on nights and weekends for the next five years?" That's really the issue. If you work on a project that you love and is relevant to the world, you will do great no matter where you are.





AlderaanDuran  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    they don't ask where you went to school

Granted I'm not a PhD in anything and far from it, I work in a pretty high level of IT infrastructure/architecture, and NO ONE asks me in interviews where I went to school. All I have is a 2 year AAS degree in computer networking from a local tech/community college, but all that matters in interviews is my experience... which is pretty damn good. No one gives a crap that I don't have a 4 year degree in computer science, they look at my experience with large companies and rapid promotional progress, and that's all they care about.

School definitely does matter in the sciences and PhD level stuff that you guys are doing, but for most people in this country in many professions, "working you way up" and getting by on experience is far more important. Sure, a degree can help you get that first job, but that's about it. In my field, I do very well for myself, spent little money on college, never went into debt, and got out into the work force a couple years earlier than my peers. It was win win all around, and I'm making more than most people who go to school for 8 years + (no offense intended).

The college system is broken in many aspects. For some fields, it makes sense, for others, it's a waste of money in many cases.

b_b  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Trust me, nobody gets a PhD in the hard sciences to make money. No offence taken. I've been out of grad school now for three years, and I'm just now making the same salary I did before I went (as an entry-level manufacturing engineer).

geneusutwerk  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nobody gets a PhD in anything to make money.

AlderaanDuran  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

True, I guess I meant more like Doctors/Surgeons/Medical PhD professionals who many do go into it for the money. But the hard sciences, yeah, everyone I met going for that is doing it for the passion which I have nothing but respect for.

geneusutwerk  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yea totally agree, it has just taken a while for me to get there. I had my heart initially set on Cornell based on some professors there and thought I had a good chance of getting in. It was my visit to Penn State and talk with professors around then (including a very nice professor at Irvine) that helped me to begin to realize exactly what you are saying.

Out of curiosity whats your PhD in?

b_b  ·  4039 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Biophysics