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kleinbl00  ·  653 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: First time getting into final fantasy

I gave FF15 like ten, twenty hours. Discovered that it's pretty much get up, drive around, do a quest, pop a tent, make dinner, take selfies. Then every now and then there's a gigantic dungeon crawl. Then I found myself fishing for cat food in order to get a picture in order to give it to a detective so I could start a treasure hunt and I noped the fuck out hard.

I dunno. There's an aspect to Japanese games that I just... can't. If I have to fish in order to move forward? Fuck off with that shit. That made me feel bad until I played Persona 5 at which point I determined that there is something deeply, disturbingly wrong with aspects of Japanese culture and all the weaboos who live for it are making it worse. And I say that having just rescued iron testicles for XP in Witcher 3.

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok ok I understand your perspective gaming from different regions isn't for everyone I get that

really I do

But at the same time you just can't say that there's something disturbingly wrong there culture they just doing things differently and people who in enjoy gaming from Japan aren't weaboos they just enjoy something different

I understand that your taste is different and I can respect that but please trying as trying say something like there's something wrong with there culture

kleinbl00  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I said "aspects."

There "aspects" wrong with Red Dead Redemption, too. And, as indicated above, there are "aspects" wrong with Witcher 3. All the Chuck E Cheese sex is really cringe-worthy. I doubt you'd call me out for questioning those "aspects."

So I will repeat - so that you can be sure that you want to have this battle - that there are aspects of Japanese culture that are abhorrent. Kamoshida's palace makes Lara Croft look like Joan of Arc.

I have helped my 7-year-old daughter play through Okami three times. Fortunately, she hasn't really caught on to Issun's obsession with breasts or wondered why Sakuya is wearing an assless kimono. It is, on balance, an incredible game. But let's not for one minute pretend that the Japanese are above criticism simply because they aren't American.

And there will never be a compelling reason for me to fish in a video game. Doesn't hurt me in the slightest that the Japanese love it. What does hurt is when it's somehow not PC to call out a culture that devalues women to the point where "rape demon" is one of your power moves.

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And that demon up there is from the game persona it should be the that demon is not really from Japanese culture translated the name is incubus an incubus is a demon from European folklore this demon goes by another name too succubus which is the female verson of an incubus

They seem to take an inspiration from European mythology an put that into their game

And the demon doesn't rape you as the legend goes it tries to seduce or entices you

For females the incubus comes an appear's as handsome man for males the succubus comes an appear's as a beautiful female they to trick or deceive you into intimacy once they do they ether suck the life out or you or kill you if the legends correct

They seemed to take an inspiration from that and put it into their game

kleinbl00  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  


Persona is like the most insanely Japanese game there is. Yeah - an incubus is a European legend but it's in a Japanese game. In European mythology? Incubi fucked women while they slept. In Persona? They've got a horn coming out of their crotch longer than their goddamn arms.

You've already said that you can understand and respect my beef with - again - "aspects" of Japanese culture. I'll reiterate - I accept a lot of weird shit in anime and video games. Less in anime because I saw Urutsukidoji in an arthouse theater in 1992 and had no idea what I was walking into. You get that shown to you as if it's normal and not at all weird and absolutely the thing you feature the weekend after My Neighbor Totoro and you start to question what people find acceptable.

Persona 5 was my Urutsukidoji video game experience. There's plenty of stuff that's cool, neat, interesting, admirable and worthy of emulation. But there's some shit that's just straight up not right and arguing about European demonology does not negate that. My receptionist is a gamer. I can't talk to her about Persona because it sails dangerously close to sexual harassment. That, to me, is reason enough to call "aspects" into question.

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And you can definitely call that in question really there's nothing wrong with you pointing that out I'm just saying if we're going to call that then we're going to have call anything like not just with Japanese culture with any culture with that issue

kleinbl00  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

...we're here discussing Final Fantasy.

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ok then let's discuss final fantasy what do you think of the remake

kleinbl00  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think I'm not interested in playing it, as discussed previously, because FF15 was entirely too Japanese for me. Too many selfies, too much cooking, too much fishing, too many spreadsheets. Again, absolutely no judgment on those who enjoy that sort of thing; I am not one of them. We started this whole endeavor when I said that Weaboos are way too ready to criticize people who don't like fishing in their games because the Japanese are, to them, utterly beyond reproach.

and scene

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Alright good I'll that into consideration I can not agree personally but I will respect your opinion

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I see i missed spelled in my first sentence I replied I can't respect that I meant to say can respect that I see where the misunderstanding happened sorry about I apologize really I do

user-inactivated  ·  650 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Look I'm not trying to have a battle really I'm not it's just yes there are very controversial things about their culture but that's how they approach things and it's that approach that bleeds into there media and entertainment.

I mean could make that same argument about American culture for example GTA and saints row portrayal of of crime and sex and violence or manhunt with it's somewhat sadistic pleasure in murder

American media does the same thing to certain extent when comes sexuallizing women

I mean all cultures American or Japanese have that sort of thing

Which is why I don't think we judge them yeah it screwed up but you have things like that any where